(Legendary) Turncoat

[Maha]

make it to steal 10 to 50 random officers at once! the price has represent this increase of officers that change company of course.
a card like this would create some animosity between traders for sure. i can see how this card could be used in nation wars

[DezNutz]

Lowering the cost threshold works even better for those for whom the high cost of bribes is already worthwhile : one of the limiting factors on fleet sizes is the exponential increase in the cost of officers for them. This card will allow the mega-fleeters to staff their fleets for less cost and at others expense. For those with lower fleet numbers, the cash cost of officers remains superior to this cards cost.
All that remains to make the card worthwhile is the punitive element of reducing an enemies officers : that can already be done.

The custard takes the vote on this one, methinks.

I understand your concern, but that would require large merchants to attack other merchants. This isn't a risk free action, where as bribes are.

[Donald Trump]

Apparently when you plundering a ship, you are not taking a captain. The game awards you a captain.

[Most Lee Harmless]

No, all it requires is large fleet-owners to attack anyone much smaller ( with this card), be it merchant, pirate or newb : as such, it is also easily exploitable, a large player can farm their smaller guild-mates for officers with a small bonus paid to them and no comeback.

[William one eye]

No, all it requires is large fleet-owners to attack anyone much smaller ( with this card), be it merchant, pirate or newb : as such, it is also easily exploitable, a large player can farm their smaller guild-mates for officers with a small bonus paid to them and no comeback.

Very good observation

[Maha]

No, all it requires is large fleet-owners to attack anyone much smaller ( with this card), be it merchant, pirate or newb : as such, it is also easily exploitable, a large player can farm their smaller guild-mates for officers with a small bonus paid to them and no comeback.

agreed

[Shadowood]

No, all it requires is large fleet-owners to attack anyone much smaller ( with this card), be it merchant, pirate or newb : as such, it is also easily exploitable, a large player can farm their smaller guild-mates for officers with a small bonus paid to them and no comeback.

Very good observation

Good point!

[DezNutz]

No, all it requires is large fleet-owners to attack anyone much smaller ( with this card), be it merchant, pirate or newb : as such, it is also easily exploitable, a large player can farm their smaller guild-mates for officers with a small bonus paid to them and no comeback.

That is the definition of milking which is against the rules. If a card could be used for milking and thus should not exist, there are a few existing cards that need to go away. You can farm smaller players with the commandeer card, should we get rid of it.

[Haron]

No, all it requires is large fleet-owners to attack anyone much smaller ( with this card), be it merchant, pirate or newb : as such, it is also easily exploitable, a large player can farm their smaller guild-mates for officers with a small bonus paid to them and no comeback.

That is the definition of milking which is against the rules. If a card could be used for milking and thus should not exist, there are a few existing cards that need to go away. You can farm smaller players with the commandeer card, should we get rid of it.

I disagree. This would only be milking if the large player paid the bonus to the newbie, not otherwise. Maybe not even then as paying for voodoo casting is not explisitely forbidden. Ordinary use of this card against relatively new players would anyway be legal use of the card. As using commandeer on new players is. Nothing illegal in that. Trying to profit from it will be hard, though. Most new players won't have ships out of fleets. To profit from using commandeer against a new player, that player would have to actively cooperate. In which case it WOULD be milking. If I see a new player with a SoL out of fleet, too bad for him. I have no qualms about commandeering it.

[Grimrock Litless]

This would be the same as casting assassinate on a target and bribe on yourself, I don't see how its exploitable but, since its actions that already exist in normal voodoo, I don't see the need for this.