Ships Market: Sell to shipwright if no bid (Small)

[Rockledge]

+1; or if it hasn't been suggested yet, like cards etc. I wouldn't the opportunity to change my mind and simply withdraw an unbid ship from the market at will, either to sell to the shipwright or even just to put back into service for a little while.

[DezNutz]

+1; or if it hasn't been suggested yet, like cards etc. I wouldn't the opportunity to change my mind and simply withdraw an unbid ship from the market at will, either to sell to the shipwright or even just to put back into service for a little while.

The back in service is out the question. That would turn the shipmarket into a ship storage for players. Once a ship is on the market it gets bid on for credits or sold to the shipwright (assuming this topic is implemented).

[Rockledge]

Are there any guides by the by that discuss the specifics of ship attributes and how they effect the base stats? The attributes, not the new traits.

[DezNutz]

Moving to approved, as this was originally approved by CJ and then set to postponed. A postponement does not change the original approval.

The gist of the approved suggestion: Ships that have been placed on the market and have not been bid on after so many days will automatically be sold to the shipwright for 70% of their value.

[Captain Jack]

2 notes for this:
-The time limit is not really of any use. Owners should be able to sell directly to the shipwright any listing they have (without a bid). So this is where thew approved refers.

Additionally, I also suggest we should impose a credit price reduction for existing listings. Like 1% reduction per week (1 credit minimum). So a ship at 100 credits, will get down to 1 after 99 weeks (nearly 2 years).

Additionally, Howkers/Cutters/Sloops that remain at 1 credit for more than 4 weeks, on the 5th week they will be automatically sold to the shipwright.

The two proposals will mostly affect listings from inactive players but it can also act as assistance to active players where the market itself will gradually reduce the price for each listing till they reach a market value.

Finally, a little off topic but still relevant is that we can use the same policy for voodoo card lists and track the relisting times. Then the player itself could set the rules for any price adjustment (ie 1% after each relist or after 3 relists).

[DezNutz]

2 notes for this:
-The time limit is not really of any use. Owners should be able to sell directly to the shipwright any listing they have (without a bid). So this is where thew approved refers.

Additionally, I also suggest we should impose a credit price reduction for existing listings. Like 1% reduction per week (1 credit minimum). So a ship at 100 credits, will get down to 1 after 99 weeks (nearly 2 years).

Additionally, Howkers/Cutters/Sloops that remain at 1 credit for more than 4 weeks, on the 5th week they will be automatically sold to the shipwright.

The two proposals will mostly affect listings from inactive players but it can also act as assistance to active players where the market itself will gradually reduce the price for each listing till they reach a market value.

Finally, a little off topic but still relevant is that we can use the same policy for voodoo card lists and track the relisting times. Then the player itself could set the rules for any price adjustment (ie 1% after each relist or after 3 relists).

I think it would be fair that any ship that sits at 1 credit for 4 weeks without a bid should be automatically sold to the shipwright.

I'm wondering if 1% reduction is a little slow. Maybe a tiered system that gets more progressive every 4 weeks. So if no bids after a week, it drops 1 credit each week for 4 weeks, if no bid, it reduces by 2 credits per week for 4 weeks, etc, etc.

I also think that MoWs should be exempt from being sold to shipwright, since you can't build them. Although I doubt it would ever get to that point, but just in case.

[José Gasparila]

Can we document here if this was implemented and what was actually implemented ? Then mark the topic closed

I suspect that something has been for Howkers - I think that there were hundreds unsaleable on the market when I joined

There seems to be an awful lot of worthless Flag Galleon Lvl 1 but every other type seems clean

Is there an option for you to sell it to the shipwright ?

[DezNutz]

Can we document here if this was implemented and what was actually implemented ? Then mark the topic closed

I suspect that something has been for Howkers - I think that there were hundreds unsaleable on the market when I joined

There seems to be an awful lot of worthless Flag Galleon Lvl 1 but every other type seems clean

Is there an option for you to sell it to the shipwright ?

This has been approved for development, but has not been implemented as of yet.

[Finvarra]

If one credit has a variable value ranging from, say, 200,000 to 1,500,000, how do you determine the actual value of the ship? Not to mention 70% of it. This doesn't make sense to me. Moreover, why is there such a strong desire to sell ships in the short term? I don't mind waiting a few months with thirty ships. But I do mind when someone puts an ordinary single-level ship worth half a credit on the market for a hundred or two hundred credits and then leaves the game. That ship will remain in the auction forever. And so hundreds of ships are added to the system, which cannot be used for anything, they just take up space. So when I need to buy a ship, I have to go through a bunch of ships that are completely out of the question. I don't want to take my ships off the market. Even though they might come in handy again after three months. So in that case, I have to buy a worse ship than the one I'm selling. I'm afraid that the market update, which has already been approved, will have worse rules than the previous one. There is a huge difference between a one-level ship and a ten-level ship. And again, there is a huge difference in attributes. In addition, there is another difference in extra guns, extra cargo, etc. Sometimes you have to wait years for a really good ship to appear on the market. And you want to delete them after fourteen days for 70% of the price? That's absurd. What if I need to buy ten of them, but I only have a few hundred credits?