Fantasy Draft III Discussion

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Which option would you like to see next in September

Poll ended at Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:11 pm

Follow the Leader
7
21%
Best Pirate/Privateer
1
3%
Best Merchant/Noblemen
2
6%
Traditional Draft
17
52%
Something Else
1
3%
Nothing.. Fantasy Draft is stupid
5
15%
 
Total votes : 33

Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Astragek » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:06 am

Maha wrote:last draft i was contacted by several captains to see how i would fit in.

it could be fun when the captains get a starting capital (from generous sponsors) and that the draftees can be bid on; that the captains have to make a public offer in goldcoins or other valuable items to the draftee. a player becomes part of the team when he accepts the offer. other captains can put up counter offers as long as their draft capital is sufficient and have open slots in the team.

when a captain who nominated a draftee could not secure that player in his team than he can select e new player immediately. this to be repeated until he secures a player for his team. the captain who gained a player while it was not his turn loses his turns to nominate a player until the other teams have the same amount of players as his team. (he can keep bidding on other nominees however.)

in this scenario do the draftees get a reward as soon as they sign on to a team, paid by their team captain.
the captains can keep the remaining capital as their reward. once the draft starts the capital available cannot be raised anymore.


this scenario will hopefully prevent the buying of votes in the end, and put value to the various players.


But that would be against PG rules of funding other players
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Zephore » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:19 am

Astragek wrote:
Maha wrote:last draft i was contacted by several captains to see how i would fit in.

it could be fun when the captains get a starting capital (from generous sponsors) and that the draftees can be bid on; that the captains have to make a public offer in goldcoins or other valuable items to the draftee. a player becomes part of the team when he accepts the offer. other captains can put up counter offers as long as their draft capital is sufficient and have open slots in the team.

when a captain who nominated a draftee could not secure that player in his team than he can select e new player immediately. this to be repeated until he secures a player for his team. the captain who gained a player while it was not his turn loses his turns to nominate a player until the other teams have the same amount of players as his team. (he can keep bidding on other nominees however.)

in this scenario do the draftees get a reward as soon as they sign on to a team, paid by their team captain.
the captains can keep the remaining capital as their reward. once the draft starts the capital available cannot be raised anymore.


this scenario will hopefully prevent the buying of votes in the end, and put value to the various players.



But that would be against PG rules of funding other players



I'm in belief, that during special occasions, the rules can be bend a little.
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Maha » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:21 pm

Astragek wrote:
Maha wrote:last draft i was contacted by several captains to see how i would fit in.

it could be fun when the captains get a starting capital (from generous sponsors) and that the draftees can be bid on; that the captains have to make a public offer in goldcoins or other valuable items to the draftee. a player becomes part of the team when he accepts the offer. other captains can put up counter offers as long as their draft capital is sufficient and have open slots in the team.

when a captain who nominated a draftee could not secure that player in his team than he can select e new player immediately. this to be repeated until he secures a player for his team. the captain who gained a player while it was not his turn loses his turns to nominate a player until the other teams have the same amount of players as his team. (he can keep bidding on other nominees however.)

in this scenario do the draftees get a reward as soon as they sign on to a team, paid by their team captain.
the captains can keep the remaining capital as their reward. once the draft starts the capital available cannot be raised anymore.


this scenario will hopefully prevent the buying of votes in the end, and put value to the various players.


But that would be against PG rules of funding other players


it would be up to Shadow to work that out with CJ; but in the past the winning team received generous rewards , so i don't see a problem here.
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Zephore » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:27 pm

Maha wrote:


it would be up to Shadow to work that out with CJ; but in the past the winning team received generous rewards , so i don't see a problem here.


Isn't it technically like the Pitt stop thread, or Marcellus Falcons hornswaggle?
You win, get a reward? Not saying fantasy draft is the same, but, the funding thing?
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:15 pm

The giving of prizes/rewards could be technically said to breach the milking/pushing rules save in one important aspect : the winner is not a foregone conclusion thus it could not have been planned to unfairly support another specific player.
Personally, I see no wrong in it : it generates enthusiasm and excitement for a community event, building social bonds and a sense of being part of a wider group than your guild or nation. For many players the kudos of success in such events is far far greater than any monetary reward and I feel it better that such events continue.
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Shadowood » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:52 pm

Danik wrote:The giving of prizes/rewards could be technically said to breach the milking/pushing rules save in one important aspect : the winner is not a foregone conclusion thus it could not have been planned to unfairly support another specific player.
Personally, I see no wrong in it : it generates enthusiasm and excitement for a community event, building social bonds and a sense of being part of a wider group than your guild or nation. For many players the kudos of success in such events is far far greater than any monetary reward and I feel it better that such events continue.


Very well put!
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Astragek » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:13 pm

Danik wrote:The giving of prizes/rewards could be technically said to breach the milking/pushing rules save in one important aspect : the winner is not a foregone conclusion thus it could not have been planned to unfairly support another specific player.
Personally, I see no wrong in it : it generates enthusiasm and excitement for a community event, building social bonds and a sense of being part of a wider group than your guild or nation. For many players the kudos of success in such events is far far greater than any monetary reward and I feel it better that such events continue.


I don't disagree with you there :) Was just wondering
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Poppy » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:46 pm

Zephore wrote:
Maha wrote:


it would be up to Shadow to work that out with CJ; but in the past the winning team received generous rewards , so i don't see a problem here.


Isn't it technically like the Pitt stop thread, or Marcellus Falcons hornswaggle?
You win, get a reward? Not saying fantasy draft is the same, but, the funding thing?


love that idea, would go even further and giving personal prize to most valuable player (after all awards and recruiting fees paid) for getting the most gold from the event
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby sXs » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:40 pm

It doesn't fall under the same rule because the prizes are donated before the draft. Those that donate to the prize pool do not know who will be drafted or which captain will have the winning team.

You are not choosing a particular player when donating to the prize pool.
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Re: Fantasy Draft III Discussion

Postby Maha » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:10 pm

Poppy wrote:love that idea, would go even further and giving personal prize to most valuable player (after all awards and recruiting fees paid) for getting the most gold from the event
your promise is noted :)
maybe CJ could put it on that players achievemnet list 'most valuable player on draft III' or something like that
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