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Re: US Next War

Postby Ralf27 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:31 am

Psychodad wrote:
DoS wrote:
Plato wrote:You can not get into regime change. But a response was a must.

No regime change action has ever had a positive result.e


I don't think bombing an airbase was an appropriate response.

Bmw wrote:you do realize that the usa is working with a group of "rebels" to overthrow the Assad government and put in place a western government. The rebel group was on its own for a number of years before the usa came and supplied it weapons (the weapons were not sent for free same with aid for the military) the rebel group approached the US government wanting to buy arms and other weapons to fight the assad government and isis.


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You serious about the banana berry?


No regime change action has ever had a positive result? Really? Then perhaps we should have kept Hitler in Germany, Mussolini in Italy, and Tojo in Japan.

Btw, next time we do attack Syria, it may indeed target the Assad residence, as some people cannot take the hint. We did this in Libya, and only wounded Gadaffi, but killed his daughter that nite. Assad never learned from the mistakes of his father, so, like father like son, he will have to pay the price, and to hell how the Russians think about it. They are backing a rogue government, which is a poor investment.
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Re: US Next War

Postby Mack » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:48 pm

I will be honest I would really hate to be at War although I do wish North Korea would try their nuclear weapon test just so we can shut that little arrogant *&$#@ up
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Re: US Next War

Postby Grapefruit » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:35 pm

when are you people gonna stop bull@#$%ing about who did what to whom and just admit that all you are fighting about is the supply of oil.
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Re: US Next War

Postby DezNutz » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:04 pm

Grapefruit wrote:when are you people gonna stop bull@#$%ing about who did what to whom and just admit that all you are fighting about is the supply of oil.


Oil. LOL. Yeah, we must be getting barrels upon barrels of it from the Iraq war. Wait, the US has gotten 0. And supposedly the war was about oil. If the war was about oil, the US did a horrible job of ensuring we got we came for. OIL. LMFAO.
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Re: US Next War

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:39 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Grapefruit wrote:when are you people gonna stop bull@#$%ing about who did what to whom and just admit that all you are fighting about is the supply of oil.


Oil. LOL. Yeah, we must be getting barrels upon barrels of it from the Iraq war. Wait, the US has gotten 0. And supposedly the war was about oil. If the war was about oil, the US did a horrible job of ensuring we got we came for. OIL. LMFAO.


The basis for the Iraq wars ( plural) was Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and the seizing of what were then a vital resource for the US. That invasion also threatened Saudi Arabia, a key regional ally and even bigger energy resource. It dont need a cynic to suggest that if Kuwait had lacked the dirty stuff beneath its sands, Iraqi soldiers would still be there while 'negotiations' wandered their way into the next century.

While the US may have adopted a strong policy of domestic production and reduction of imported oil, that doesnt mean its energy corporations play any lesser role in oil production and distribution worldwide. So, I'd advise you do some basic research as to how the oil industry in Iraq was re-structured under the US-backed regime. The oil is all owned and exported by Iraq : other nations corporations get paid a 'service fee' to actually run the oilfields. Its a generous fee, at one point when oil prices dropped seriously, the Iraqi government was paying them more to extract it than they were getting at market. So, no US, or any foreign, company owns the oil, or sells it at market : but they certainly are earning fat profits 'servicing' the Iraqi industry. Its a business model much favored by corporations : the State takes the ownership and covers the market risks, the corporation takes the profits (but calls them 'service fees, consultancy charges, etc, etc) and thus avoids any losses.
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Re: US Next War

Postby Admiral Nelson » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:41 pm

All this American jib jab... Lets talk about...

*Scratches head*

*Chews tip of pencil*

Err... Russia! God dammit, can't have a conversation about Russia without America coming up...

Lets talk about Syriaaa - no, scrap that...

Ah yes! The ocean! Not many people talk about the horrors that go on in the ocean! All those fish wars! Turtles eating Crabs... Whales bombing fish... Jeesh...
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Re: US Next War

Postby Grapefruit » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:45 pm

I spoke in haste, it has been a long and stressful day, allow me to explain it to you properly.....
The only reason any government cares about the internal affairs of another country is the resources to be gained and controlled.
Do you really think a government is going to waste millions defending non tax-payers?
The US and the UK have supported and armed many harsh regimes and only stopped protecting the crazy dictators when they stopped selling them oil/gas or whatever.
This whole Syria situation is because of a gas/oil pipeline that flows from there to Russia.
Neither government cares who runs the country just as long as the fuel keeps flowing.
The Iraq war began when the Iraqis invaded Kuwait, which seriously disrupted the oil supply to both the US and the UK.
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Re: US Next War

Postby Donald Trump » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:59 pm

Grapefruit wrote:Do you really think a government is going to waste millions defending non tax-payers?


Controversial. But well said and true.

US backed regimes (we did back the Khmer Rouge which perpetrated a genocide in Cambodia). We killed 500,000 children in Iraq with our bombings. The British starved 50 million Indians to save on food material. The Belgian government killing half the population of the Congo for rubber.

You wanna really know a group no one cares about? The Native Americans. Those guys had it the worst. An entire 2 continent of those guys wiped out (100,000,000+) for gold, silver, god, and slavery.

No government gives 2 shits about justice for foreign others. It is all about the restoration and independence of themselves. This has been prevalent throughout centuries.
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Re: US Next War

Postby Mack » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:24 pm

It sucks but thats life, survival of the fittest. Sometimes the crazies do a lot of damage but dont last long. Everyone wants to be on top!
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Re: US Next War

Postby Donald Trump » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:33 pm

Survival of the fittest. What an ignorant thing to say. "Survival of the fittest." It is "Survival of the fittest" until you are deemed unfit. What then. Then you go right? You go and die. That is all there is to genocide, murder, war, man-made famines.


Survival of the fittest.

A new vocabulary to hide the sins of the past and an excuse to continue onward.
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