Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:47 am

It seems like a bug to me. I can also guess the bug -roughly- it should be an easy fix in this case. Just report the battle please so we can check it as checking is better than guessing.

Make sure you got full crew on these ships before reporting.
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Rjcook » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:57 am

simple question i have is does who shots first go for first ships only then progress from there or is it ship by ship


and why the sotl lose first shot 2 out of 3 to a frigate.
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Shadowood » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:57 am

Will do. Thanks CJ
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:58 am

Rjcook wrote:simple question i have is does who shots first go for first ships only then progress from there or is it ship by ship


It should be ship by ship.
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Shadowood » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:00 am

Rjcook wrote:simple question i have is does who shots first go for first ships only then progress from there or is it ship by ship


YES. So your first ship vs. their first ship. Then this formula of speed comes in to play on who fires first out of these first two ships.

Then the battle progresses.
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Rjcook » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:08 am

and why the sotl lose first shot 2 out of 3 to a frigate
maybe the sotl is not upgrade as we hink
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:12 am

This:

Haron wrote:I think there's a random element included. Now, everything related to combat is seemingly deliberately kept secret, but I (and many others) at least know the speed parameter of every ships type. And how the various attributes affect it. Some place it's said that the ship with the highest speed fires first. I think that is not exactly correct. I think the ships use their speed plus a die roll to determine initiative. Thus, it is possible for the slower ship to fire first - with a lot of luck. The difference between the speed of a SoL with favorable winds and a cutter should not be too large for this to ever happen.

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As quoted from Jessica, the random fact is indeed present.
It seems that the wind was against you Shadowood when his SoL fought your Sloops. Your frigs had a better position though ;)
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:14 am

The exact random for speed is counted as such:

1d20 roll (a die with possible value from 1 till 20) is cast by every player. What they bring, is added to their ship total speed. So if a ship has a speed of 30 and bring a roll of 20, then the final speed is 50.
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:22 am

There was a bug after all involved. The base speed for both attacker and defender was not calculated at all when determining who strikes first. This has been fixed.
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Re: Battle Mechanics Question - Who Fires First

Postby Rjcook » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:23 am

so as it is there is no absolute to battles ...just luck on a roll..unfortunately that seem to be a bad dynamic as different ships should be more powerful than lessor ones .but could see if same ships in battle with same upgrades there needs a random # input
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