(Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Bmw » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:51 pm

yeah not really true they use facts made up by there sources within the goverment
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Donald Trump » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:55 pm

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

BMW. They linked the government statistics if you cared to look.

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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby DezNutz » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:07 pm

Here is a statistic for you. There are over 270M civilian owned firearms in the United States. How many firearms have been used in violent crime? Your statistic shows that only a percentage of the 1.1M violent crimes committed involved a firearm. That's well below 0.5% of all civilian owned firearms in the US that are used in a violent crime. It's a pandemic. Why don't you look up the counts of self-defense cases where a firearm is used?

Here are some data: http://americangunfacts.com/
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Mack » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:11 pm

Well i wonder if those are acurate for one, also thats a lot of unknown...... alot of people found shot in the head on the side of the road
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Donald Trump » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:14 pm

DezNutz wrote:Here is a statistic for you. There are over 270M civilian owned firearms in the United States. How many firearms have been used in violent crime? Your statistic shows that only a percentage of the 1.1M violent crimes committed involved a firearm. That's well below 0.5% of all civilian owned firearms in the US that are used in a violent crime. It's a pandemic. Why don't you look up the counts of self-defense cases where a firearm is used?

Here are some data: http://americangunfacts.com/


Biased site. I read until they got to the U.K. Part. Only provide information on why guns should be legal. No provided information on our murder rate vs the UK.
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Haron » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:15 pm

I don't really want to discuss real worlds politics here (I'm very happy to discuss Avonmoran politics, though!), but I think everyone needs to read this, and carefully and quietly think through if this may apply to them: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Mack » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:20 pm

DezNutz wrote:Here is a statistic for you. There are over 270M civilian owned firearms in the United States. How many firearms have been used in violent crime? Your statistic shows that only a percentage of the 1.1M violent crimes committed involved a firearm. That's well below 0.5% of all civilian owned firearms in the US that are used in a violent crime. It's a pandemic. Why don't you look up the counts of self-defense cases where a firearm is used?

Here are some data: http://americangunfacts.com/


interesting, if its all real and accurate....
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Mack » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:22 pm

All i think of when people talk about taking guns away from the American citizens,is Hitler that's exactly what he did right before he systematically started killing Jews... disarm us we have no defense against our own armys
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:38 pm

Mack wrote:All i think of when people talk about taking guns away from the American citizens,is Hitler that's exactly what he did right before he systematically started killing Jews... disarm us we have no defense against our own armys


Actually, in Germany, strict gun ownership controls pre-dated Nazi rule, to the extent that few private citizens did own firearms : what did happen after 1933 was that the existing rules were relaxed so that favored elements, such as party members, could own guns privately. The notion that Jews, Gypsy's and others were forbidden to own guns so as to be easy to destroy is a bit of a red herring, as they, along with most German citizens, never had any right to own guns anyway. It's part of a hypothetical argument raised by some to suggest an armed populace could have resisted Nazism. Some have taken this to mean that, historically the Nazi's passed laws to disarm their chosen victims : in fact, they didnt have to.
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Re: (Forum War)-AyeCappy vs World

Postby Bmw » Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:45 pm

one part of the usa currently is if someone managed to get past the army and into a city or something like that the usa's populace would probably be able to resist the invaders mostly if they came out into the country because well people around here have a ton of guns
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