Buying Bribe Cards #2

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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby Sebena » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:23 pm

Haron wrote:
Bigtea47 wrote:
Kart wrote:Bigtea....I love the picture. Fantastic.

Was I harsh? I really didn't think about it. Wow, I would hate for you to see it when I do get harsh. lol


Truth has been spoken. So it wasn't too bad.
My view on his comments is, it has negative effect for some and positive for others.
He is like a yelp reviewer. He compares prices and makes everyone more competitive with what they offer. Which is good for the seller.
But not too good for the buyer as it makes people thing twice before going with a deal.



I love the picture too!
And this is what I hope, BigTea :-)

And Kart: Yes, I think there are different situations where different solutions are the optimal one. And your "bundling" may cause some such situations. For a newbie, though, it's usually about what he can get for that bribe cards he was so lucky to find. Experienced players don't need my comments - they are perfectly able to see for themselves what offers are best for them in their current situation.




newbies need gold coins most and they will go for best offer regardless of value in credits and your review instead of helping them on forum whom they don't visit until mission requires them put effort in helping them in game with msgs of welcome and offering your help there.
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby Crackedcubes » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:26 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Crackedcubes wrote:If Haron wants to provide a true service, how about analyzing and providing us with a summary of the risks associated with doing business with each party making these offers.

Real life accountants' value comes in identifying transactional risk, not providing basic 5th grade mathematical comparatives.


The risk is that you are enhancing their already significant abilities. Nothing prevents them from turning around and using their newly acquired officers, fleets, and ships to obliterate you into a void of Pirates Glory called inactive players.


it would be rather foolish to obliterate someone who is boosting your power. for example, if I take Kart up on his deal(which I have done in the past) why would he use the resources he gets from our exchange to attack me? it would not only make me regard him as a backstabber and an enemy, but it would hurt his reputation. if anything I think taking people up on deals like these would make them less likely to attack you. why hurt someone whos helping you afterall.[/quote]

I'm not saying anyone would do this, but there is a risk of such a thing occurring, which was the point of my post to Crackedcubes question.[/quote]

DezNutz makes a valid point, but not one that isn't already known.

Here is an example of a risk associated with doing business with these parties that we are not considering: Let's say one of the parties that is extending these fine offers has built their empire on the borrowed gold coin. Thus, they have heavily leveraged themselves in order to grow. There is an inherent risk in doing business with them, in that, when their pyramid scheme of debt crashes either due to gold coin crunch, lack of debt refinancing or pirates targeting him/her aggressively, will you be one of the those left out in the cold due to these events. In the big scheme of things, these are minor issues, but when one considers risks of doing business with other players in our deep, consuming world of Pirates Glory, your risk analysis must go beyond...oh he might attack me...
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby not a pirate » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:27 pm

DezNutz wrote: As for the gaggle of Nelson, I couldn't careless.

How rude. He has twenty curses a day that say otherwise. ;)
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby Haron » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:27 pm

Ferdinand wrote:>Make T'zak Ryn mad
>Haron makes a discount on all Bermudan targets and attacks on Bigtea
>Fun for all ensues


"Discounts"? *Shudders*

Are such profanities accepted? Is there really NO filter in this forum?
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby not a pirate » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:32 pm

It'd only be a discount of 1 gc. I'm sure you could take a loan...
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby Haron » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:33 pm

Kart wrote:Bigtea....I love the picture. Fantastic.

Was I harsh? I really didn't think about it. Wow, I would hate for you to see it when I do get harsh. lol


Of course you weren't. Your comment was perfectly acceptable. You were wrong about my age, but then, how could you know? :-)
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby ChaIbaud » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:40 pm

because you said you had a something or other in physics B)
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby DezNutz » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:51 pm

Crackedcubes wrote:
DezNutz wrote:I'm not saying anyone would do this, but there is a risk of such a thing occurring, which was the point of my post to Crackedcubes question.


DezNutz makes a valid point, but not one that isn't already known.

Here is an example of a risk associated with doing business with these parties that we are not considering: Let's say one of the parties that is extending these fine offers has built their empire on the borrowed gold coin. Thus, they have heavily leveraged themselves in order to grow. There is an inherent risk in doing business with them, in that, when their pyramid scheme of debt crashes either due to gold coin crunch, lack of debt refinancing or pirates targeting him/her aggressively, will you be one of the those left out in the cold due to these events. In the big scheme of things, these are minor issues, but when one considers risks of doing business with other players in our deep, consuming world of Pirates Glory, your risk analysis must go beyond...oh he might attack me...


I was merely providing a simple example of risk analysis. There are two many what-ifs to provide a specific scenario of risk, but risk can be measured with a simple question, can I afford to cast my voodoo card on another player and potentially get nothing in return. The risk varies based on who you are casting the card on. Think of it like eBay. Most people reduce risk by buying from sellers that have good selling history.
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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby Crackedcubes » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:05 pm

Good stuff DezNutz!

All input can have some value. Hopefully, those that have never considered risk will read our posts and begin to "think" about the risk of their actions before casting voodoo, etc...

Cheers,

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Re: Buying Bribe Cards #2

Postby Admiral Nelson » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:53 pm

Ferdinand wrote:Wallet Warrior Ziggfried makes 2+ million a day with 20 fleets (except he has no fleets right now), and buys voodoo packs in absurd amounts when he buys credits. Wallet Warriors Danik and LT have considerable resources as well. One pay-to-play player is not a Warrior of the Wallet, instead he is "the Nelson" of the "Nelson Party! [Party]". You are leaving out the Nelson party?

They, the Nelson party.

Would be very displeased.


We, the Nelson party.

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