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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:24 am

Most Lee Harmless wrote:What's your problem : I'm agreeing with you! Go home, look after No1 and stop pretending the rest of the world matters. America First!

Just be aware that will only apply in America. Why should the rest of the globe place your intersts first? Why place our interests second to yours? You don't place yourself second, why should we?

You complain about helping others and when we say, 'Then don't!' ...you start complaining we ain't grateful enough for the help you don't want to give us! Make up your mind!


What's your problem? Do you not understand I am talking about how we have been treated prior?

And don't try to flip this. So many foreigners are whining and moaning about the US finally prioritizing our own interests.

are you so incapable of understanding my point? I'm not against helping. I just expect that our allies return the favor, and show gratitude. That's it. But if there gonna act like you, and insult us and whine and moan, then let em rot.

I also never even said crap about the globe placing our interest first. But it sure as hell would be nice if our "allies" gave us more support and gratitude. And I can just as easily flip the question on you! why should america place the globes interest first? Why should our allies get better treatment then we give ourselves? Notice how you don't really have any real rebuttals? You just keep saying go home, we don't want your help acting as if you are some representative of all the foreign people. You're not. Tons of people are happy and grateful to get our help and return it. They should get it. I support that. I don't support helping people like you who act like whiny ungrateful arses who insult us when they don't get their way. Do you understand my point now, or should I try to explain it in a way that even a child can understand?
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Re: same old stan

Postby Leo » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:26 am

Meliva wrote:Unless the majority of the rest of the world all decide to unite to fight us, I'm not too worried. Again, we have 2 big oceans on both sides, a large population, tons of guns, and the biggest military budget, and probably the biggest military in the world. Other then nukes, I can't see any nation managing to invade the mainland US. Canada and Mexico might be able to push in for a bit, but neither has militaries close to the size of ours. I also doubt either would want to invade us. It's an unfair fight for them, and without some damn good foreign support, won't end well for them. Defensive wars tend to favor the defender, and with the natural defense of 2 oceans, relatively weak neighbors, large diverse climates from mountains, to deserts, to swamps, huge population, tons of guns, any attempt to invade the US faces so many issues and problems I really do not see it ever happening. I'm more worried about what I believe Lincoln once said. If anything is going to bring down the US, it's going to be a threat from within.

Also, funniest crap I read today. Nobody wanting America's help. Yeah, sure, you might not want it, since you feel so offended by what Trump is doing, but last I checked, you're not the king of the world, nor are you the chosen representative for all foreign people outside the US.

It's also rich talking about self superiority, when so many foreigners seem to just love to mock the United States. Talking about how so many places have healthcare, or free college, or talking crap about school shootings in America. But when the US starts talking about stopping sending support to other nations and focusing on our own problems, oh no sound the alarms, they can't do that, we need the money of the biggest economy in the world, of the biggest military in the world, oh but we'll still talk crap regardless.

And yeah, the few nukes other nations have could mess up the world. Okay. Cool. Wipe out all human life just to spite your enemy. I'm sure that's a good idea. Rather then figure out a way to survive and bounce back.

Look at Poland, it's been conquered, and crushed so many times yet it always managed to claw it's way back. Better to live and survive to rise again, then just burn yourself and everyone to ash out of spite.


Not saying this will necessarily happen, but what good is the military budget if no one is willing to fight? If it's a war no one agrees with and people sense that it could be a world war, drafting people may not do anything. No way to FORCE people to fight other than to punish them with fines or imprisonment. And if enough people refuse to fight this strategy would be wholly ineffective. In both world wars we've been in people have been so angry with the opposition that they signed up en masse to fight, so little to no drafting was needed. Korea and especially Vietnam are different stories, most of the soldiers had to be drafted and a good chunk didn't agree with the cause but fought anyway because they liked the idea of kicking communist ass or because there just weren't enough people to refuse to fight for it to be effective. I have a strong feeling (completely on a hunch, of course) that whatever the cause for WWIII will be is going to be something that most Americans can't get behind or even despise. So many people are pacifists and hate war or hate our leaders and would refuse to fight for them. Plus now we know what kind of technology us and other countries hold, people would be even less motivated to help out. Anyone getting nuked at this point will result in the end of humanity and probably most life on earth. There's no way around it. If one country launches a nuke someone else will launch one too. And nukes are so much more incredibly powerful now than they were back in WWII. They won't just destroy cities, they'll destroy entire states or countries. A single nuke would have an impact on all life on earth, everywhere around the globe.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Stan Rogers » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:27 am

"As of December 2024, Canada holds approximately $378.8 billion worth of U.S. Treasury securities, making it a significant foreign holder of U.S. debt. "

Jeez... I hope they pay us back.
Should rename this thread "Same old Don" .
it has been so far knocked off topic, you would think there was no moderation here.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:35 am

Well stan, you know where the report button is if you wanna make a report. Far as I'm concerend though, Dman made this thread to talk about you, and it's in UoH, so unless he complains about the way this thread is going, it's all good. What do you say Dman? Wanna make a report?
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:35 am

Stan Rogers wrote:"As of December 2024, Canada holds approximately $378.8 billion worth of U.S. Treasury securities, making it a significant foreign holder of U.S. debt. "

Jeez... I hope they pay us back.
Should rename this thread "Same old Don" .
it has been so far knocked off topic, you would think there was no moderation here.


considering we owe trillions you aren't a significant holder of our debt
we should just declare war on you and then we don't owe you anything :D
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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:39 am

Dmanwuzhere wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:"As of December 2024, Canada holds approximately $378.8 billion worth of U.S. Treasury securities, making it a significant foreign holder of U.S. debt. "

Jeez... I hope they pay us back.
Should rename this thread "Same old Don" .
it has been so far knocked off topic, you would think there was no moderation here.


considering we owe trillions you aren't a significant holder of our debt
we should just declare war on you and then we don't owe you anything :D
It's my topic and it's open as hell if you think you get a topic that you are taking seriously enough to be the only subject matter you might go outside UOH.


Hear-Hear. If Canada becomes the 51st State, that Debt goes away! We can grab Mexico while we're at it. We can become a great super nation of Canda-United States and Mexico. Can call us the country of C.U.M. We each get a letter for our new name! :D.

Ain't no one gonna mess with C.U.M. You mess with us, it's gonna get messy :P
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Re: same old stan

Postby Stan Rogers » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:40 am

Carry on.. Its quite entertaining. Just give Canada back its gold and shut the door.
We be fine in the long term and regarding your Lincoln quote, I believe it to be true nd the FO stage of FAFO is just getting started.
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:41 am

Dmanwuzhere wrote:So were you in the National Guard, or is your dating pool primarily National Guard kids?
However you came by that knowledge doesn't matter just know Trump is trying to clean it up
and only have 2 genders in there now.
You may have to explore some other social circle now for your Netflix and chill!... i wont tell Stan :P :P :P



As you can see I steered it to politics Stan :D :D :D
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Re: same old stan

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:42 am

Stan Rogers wrote:Carry on.. Its quite entertaining. Just give Canada back its gold and shut the door.
We be fine in the long term and regarding your Lincoln quote, I believe it to be true nd the FO stage of FAFO is just getting started.

Thanks for your permission to carry on :y ... i was just about to ask :wheel ... pffft
Come and get it. Tell Trudeau to lead the charge. :P :P :P
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Re: same old stan

Postby Meliva » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:45 am

Dmanwuzhere wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:Carry on.. Its quite entertaining. Just give Canada back its gold and shut the door.
We be fine in the long term and regarding your Lincoln quote, I believe it to be true nd the FO stage of FAFO is just getting started.


Come and get it. Tell Trudeau to lead the charge. :P :P :P


come on now dman, you know he stepped down. He'd decided he'd ruined Canada enough and is now gonna retire in some log cabin somewhere with his millions of dollars and his own private maple syrup lake.

But once C.U.M is formed we'll be the biggest nation on earth. You could see the size of our C.U.M from the moon itself! It will be so strong too! All the other nations will envy how strong and rich C.U.M is. :D
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