anyone paying attention

[Captain of the Seas]

Sadly, it seemed no matter what the verdict was, people would still riot. We can only hope that if some do happen, no one gets hurt. I do hope that everyone can accept that he is guilty and not riot anymore.

[DezNutz]

Sadly, it seemed no matter what the verdict was, people would still riot. We can only hope that if some do happen, no one gets hurt. I do hope that everyone can accept that he is guilty and not riot anymore.

Until he wins on appeal. Which is of high probablity.

[Meliva]

I just hope that when all this is over, and no more appeals are done, and the final verdict is reached, that everyone accepts it, and moves on. Rioting solves nothing in cases like this.

[William one eye]

Judge goes light on sentence to reduce likelyness of appeal.
= riots


Judge imposes maximum sentence
= appeal = riots

[Most Lee Harmless]

As a trained security person, duly licensed and subject to training requirements and official oversight, I shook my head when I saw that footage. Any trainee doing that would have been simply kicked out for fucking up.

Asphyxia is the #1 concern when restraining an individual because acting in a way which causes it is a quick walk up to the dock on a charge of manslaughter. No argument on that from our trainers or supervisors. Non-injurious restraint holds exist for precisely that reason. A minute of injurious restraint can be lethal.

Drugged up, abusive, struggling : it does not matter : non injurious restraint holds correctly applied protect both parties from harm.

Nine minutes of applying pressure upon the neck and thus upon the airways, combined with pressure upon the chest by forcing an person down as the officer did : it was a text-book example of how not to do it.

So, the question is, are you happy for such poorly trained officers to be arresting your kin? I am not.

[Meliva]

To be honest, I wouldn't be happy if my kin get arrested period. I also do not know what sort of training officers are given, nor do I know if he ignored his training and did things his own way. Don't know a lot of the details honestly, as I did not pay much attention to this trial. I just hope that the jurors were fair and unbiased, and took in all the evidence to make a fair judgement.

But more then that, I really hope that no matter what happens, no one on either side of this issue riot. Rioting just hurts innocent people.

[Leo -⁠_-]

well hopefully this means no one will go out and riot now. Regardless, hope folks on both sides accept the judgement and don't do anything stupid.

They will still riot. Especially once sentencing is passed. And then again, when the appeal is granted.

I doubt that, at least here. People got what they had been calling for, so there would be no reason to riot. I went out and all the gatherings were singing and celebrating, there wasn't the same anger that was coming out of the protests before the riots. If there are riots, I'm guessing it would be a very small group of people, possibly from the other side. And Mel, you'd be happy to know I would in no way whatsoever, support that. In fact it would be objectively stupid seeing that what was being called for was granted. He was charged with 3 different counts, meaning it's impossible for him to get a "light" sentence.

[Meliva]

humans can be really stupid leo. I recall hearing about an riot that happened in I believe Brazil, or some south American country. The funny thing is that, the people were celebrating their team winning the soccer championship or some other contest, and their partying on the streets evolved into a riot.

So I wouldn't be shocked if some folks still rioted even after a guilty verdict. Still, I just hope folks on both sides will accept the results, and stay calm.

Edit-also I just remembered about how a statue of the Colonel from KFC was tossed in a river over in Japan, after a town won a championship. This led to something called the curse of the colonel, funny enough. Look it up, rather funny

[Lachlan]

humans can be really stupid leo. I recall hearing about an riot that happened in I believe Brazil, or some south American country. The funny thing is that, the people were celebrating their team winning the soccer championship or some other contest, and their partying on the streets evolved into a riot.

So I wouldn't be shocked if some folks still rioted even after a guilty verdict. Still, I just hope folks on both sides will accept the results, and stay calm.

Edit-also I just remembered about how a statue of the Colonel from KFC was tossed in a river over in Japan, after a town won a championship. This led to something called the curse of the colonel, funny enough. Look it up, rather funny

I think it was that they wanted to see that short Argentinean soccer player Diego Maradona his name was I think like his coffin and the police said there was to many people or something and then they rioted

[William one eye]

So, the question is, are you happy for such poorly trained officers to be arresting your kin? I am not.

This is not a training issue. This person should never have been allowed to be a police officer.

95% of the police officers i have ever been involved in incidents with have been professional, tolerant of resistant and abusive behaviors towards them.

Notable exceptions to this.
I been involved 2 incidents where the police were abusing their implied position of authority, 1 were they litterally robbed us and were not even being descrete about it,
1 where they had a fit and disabled my freinds car Leaving him stranded on the side of the road. Because they could not
Find the evidence they needed to arrest him.
1 where they asked a friend to come into the hallway to talk then arrested him for drunk in public. They beat my other freind almost unconsious and took him to jail. This over playing the stereo to loud.

However i have had countless experiences where police acted appropriately and professionally.

I have even have quite a few experiences where officers when above and beyond and acted on my behalf even though they did not need to.

Extensive personality and psychological examination should be done before arming people and giving them authoritarian positions.

I dont agree with defundment, but perhaphs its would be better to be understaffed than poorly staffed.
Or how about better funding. To pay better wages to hire and retain the best possible officers instead of meager funding that limits the pool of available candidates to hire.