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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Haron » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:10 pm

El Draque wrote:Mack, I have to agree with Blue a bit. I think the numbers are far higher than we have data on, which is limited those tested. Which is a great thing, it means the death rate is far lower than we are showing.

Also, once the government offered a bounty (cash) for positives, your "covid related" deaths are going to increase. I know a few people who were diagnoses as covid without a test. Only to find out later they didnt have it, hell my neighbor was put in the covid ICU unit because her doctor told her that the severe pains in her belly were a rare covid effect. They finally tested her and found she was negative pulled her out of covid unit and found she had appendicitis.

So more cases are coming, more hospital care will be needed, but so long as the death rate stays low, there is no need for panic.

Anyone remember H1N1 swine flu "From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million)" CDC, in the United States alone the first year of that pandemic.


By all means, we should not panic. That helps no one. However, do not be tricked to believe that the number of "Covid deaths" are blown up. Look at the excess death rate. A lot more people than expected have died since the pandemic hit USA. Without any other major candidate, we have to attribute these excess dead to Covid, either directly or indirectly.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:09 pm

i have found there are 30k more influenza deaths this year, murders are up this year I'm still digging
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Stan Rogers » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:36 pm

I think you are digging in a dry well Mack.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:40 pm

if you want it to appear bad yes. you would make that protocol. you know just incaseits needed. and more money to be had from the government. almost like shouting this could kill 2 mil or more....
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:50 pm

Mack it's not like the more money the government has, the more money it's employees make. Government employees have nothing to gain except some pretty heavy fines and a few lawsuits by lying about statistics or trying to manipulate evidence.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:02 pm

well if you had a plexiglass co. mask making co. Hand sanitizer co. or refrigerated truck co. and so on. those are all making good money from this
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Meliva » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:01 am

yup. why do you think we have politicians who keep dragging us into foreign affairs? To spread democracy, freedom and other good ideals? Or because it's a way to line their pockets at the cost of soldier lives.

Some politicians will do things that don't help anyone but themselves. So I could see some politicans taking advantage of this virus to boost themselves. And sadly, thanks to folks like you, we may now have one of the most crooked career politicians as president.

Have you heard that apparently neither Warrens or Sanders will be on his cabinet despite all those claims some folks made about him being progressive, or at least working with progressives? 2 of those folks being Warrens and Sanders themselves who endorsed him?

Shouldn't be a shock to anyone who ever listened to him speak. Man said he was both for, and against fracking, there was literal bloody proof of him being the type of person who would say whatever the person in front of him wanted to hear if it got their vote. Much of an arse as Trump may have been, at least he never told folks like you he was against a wall, or for the green new deal . Of course, unlike Biden, if he did, the Media would have Talked about it nonstop.

I really do hope Trump wins the court cases and remain president. However if Biden get's into the office, I suppose we'll see whether or not he does a good job. I just hope if things go to crap, folks like you won't re-elect him just because you don't like the other guy.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:12 am

Meliva wrote:I really do hope Trump wins the court cases and remain president. However if Biden get's into the office, I suppose we'll see whether or not he does a good job. I just hope if things go to crap, folks like you won't re-elect him just because you don't like the other guy.


Do you hope he wins because you want him to stay in office or because you think that he actually SHOULD stay as president? It doesn't take half a brain to figure out that what he is attempting is undemocratic and unconstitutional.

By the way since you have brought up the thing about Biden reading from a teleprompter, it may interest you to know that Trump himself reads from a teleprompter, and is bad at it!

Here's a good compilation to show his failures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-29I6Ia8Xmc

And that doesn't even mention when he said "acomplimenshades" during a public address, only shortly after he over pronounced the word "tolerated" so that it sounded like he was singing. Also leaves out when he called Yosemite "Yo-semite".

But who cares? Biden clearly is suffering from extreme mental disorders that's why he reads from a teleprompter (btw all politicians read from teleprompters).
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby The Lamb » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:30 am

So wait... aren't the snowflakes still having temper tantrums and destroying their own cities? Now the democrats are hosting their own civil war within the their party?

I think I know how to appease the masses with nothing better to do then stomp around and scream... what if we air lifted vast amounts of riot participation trophies made from organic paper, and send cards to all the dems who voted for "change" that comes with a warm hug and a note saying: "You were lied to for your votes, s**k it up".

Atleast a vote for trump meant you knew what you were voting for... an unpolished new yorker with a large ego who loved to see his name on every thing and hates to loose. See the last part is what 1/2 the people like about him. So if he hates to loose, wants to see his name in lights and fights for America, then America wins :) I could care less if he hurts someone's feelings or wants to grab himself a covfefe :D
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Stan Rogers » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:51 am

It's unfortunate the USA democratic system does not lend itself easily to adopting more political parties.
There is obviously a need for the people to express themselves in ways that the 2 party system will not allow.


The issues the USA faces could lessen the democratic burden by the people even if the democrat and republican parties were split in half so the extremes and the middle ground could be represented as per the populations wants. After all, that is the heart of democracy-government for the people by the people.

Unfortunately there is not the political will for those in charge to do something that would allow the splitting of power.
It brings to mind the expression "Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally".
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