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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby DezNutz » Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:50 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:You are right. i have not held an AR, m4, or M16.

Why would I? I use firearms for hunting only, not for shooting street antelope.


If you have never held one, how do you know how to properly hold one?

You use firearms for hunting... Please tell us what you hunt, what weapon and ammo you use, type of sight you use. I would really like to know from a certified firearms and weapons safety person.

Also can you tell me which weapon safety rules he was violating in that picture?

Still didn't answer what the 4 weapons conditions are, certified firearms and weapons safety guy.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo the Conqueror » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:08 pm

I hunt both deer and foul. For the deer I use a 30ot6 semi-auto and sometimes a 30/30 semi-auto. The It's a regular 4x scope with a wire cross hair. For foul I use a 20 gauge which is also a semi-auto. Sometimes I hunt squrrel, which I use a 22 with no sight for.

Safety rules he was violating?

1. Keep the barrel pointing away from other people

2. keep the barrel pointing away from other people

3. KEEP THE BARREL POINTING AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE

The 4 conditions:

4. The hammer is down, there is no ammo in the mag, and the hammer is not cocked

3. Same as #4, but I think the mag has ammo in it?

2. Same as #3, but there is ammo in the chamber

1. The chamber has ammo, there is mag with ammo in it in place, and the hammer is cocked.

Did I get those right?

Did you think I was lying?
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:13 pm

Where is the hypocrisy? Was he contracted to protect these businesses? Nope, he took it upon himself to do so. Now, if those two citizens who pointed firearms at a passing crowd were defending their patch, how much threat is a stranger turning up with a rifle in a neighbourhood which was not his?

Cant have it both ways, if one is a reasonable act to protect your home and neighbourhood then chasing out an unknown man bearing arms is as well.

The only person claiming he was guarding businesses is himself. None of the business owners knew him nor claimed him as acting on their behalf. By the way, do you still claim he, at 17, lacks mature judgement enough to bar him from voting? Because his actions sure illustrate exactly that.

A single photo is not evidence of his acts throughout the incident. Personally, taking a loaded weapon you are not permitted to carry into a volatile situation lacks judgement. The odds of it going wayward were far too high. He could just as easily been shot by a cop fearing for their own life. And yep, folk running away in fear from cops get shot too. Hey, maybe he might have been picked up in a plain van by those federal officers running around.

As ever, guilt and innocence get prejudged by your own prejudices. He was a dumb flower, put himself in grave danger and should consider himself damn lucky to get away it.

Saying you served proves ferk all. I knew serving soldiers I wouldn't trust with a pen-knife never mind a loaded weapon. One of the scary things about sitting in an armoured PC with guys like them is that the bullet they loose off because they havent cleared their weapon and you hit a bump... it doesnt go out, it pings around everywhere and kills and maims same as any enemy round. There are idiots in uniforms too, who could recite the drills backwards.. unfortunately, they tended to carry them out backwards too.

So yep, I am gonna keep on making smart-arse comments because that is what your arguments deserve.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo the Conqueror » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:16 pm

Danik, thank you for your service :D
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:15 pm

-1 : Move to archive wrote:If a man arrives at a protest carrying a meat cleaver.
If a man arrives at a protest carrying a baseball bat with nails studding the end.
If a man arrives at a protest waving a samuria sword.
If a man arrives at a protest carrying a burning torch.
If a man arrives at a protest carrying a five-gallon can of petrol.
Kinda obvious.
A man arrives at a protest waving a rifle around he aint even licensed to carry... move along.. nothing happening here...


you dont need a license where im at to carry an ar15..

ive seen where blm protesters have clbeen carring weapons also attacking and killing people if you excpect everyl e to stand by and watch it happen you have a sad reality to wake up to ill tell you now if they come here tring to hurt people ill for damn sure shoot them
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:11 pm

So you agree it was right for them to shoot him? You read his mind? You watched his every movement and word that night? You know ferk all. You know what you think you need to know to prove your prejudice. You carry the same blindness to motive and deed as those who deny any wrongdoing by every side on these protests. But with you its a holy act of patriotic belief and for them its evil communist machination.

Burnt any witches lately?
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:47 pm

ferk all yep thats accurate to what i am seeing in this discussion

first the illegal weapon charge (misdemeanor) was utilized to enact another statute to rule out a self defense argument
it takes any illegal action and makes all other actions thereafter criminal
however in wisconsin the statute allows for a 17 year old to open carry a rifle over a certain length (which it was) and is unmodified

once that charge is beat wisconsin law will allow for a self defense argument

that self defense with the first guy is 100 percent as a witness (against kyle) stated that the victim grabbed the gun before he was shot
the self defense statute for wisconsin states someone grabbing a gun allows for you to shoot

the 2nd and 3rd guys fall under the statute that provides a self defense shooting (up to murder) if you can reasonably believe you are about to recieve serious injury, bodily harm or death

the very fact rittenhouse had fired already and did not fire at the guy who was about to attack but put his hands up shows he was exercising some very abnormal yet awesome gun control

thats the legality of it

now speaking of whether or not it was patriotic well thats subjective but there always has and always will be a reaction to actions
and i am surprised there have not been more militia type incidents
you can say he went with a rifle so he was going to go shoot someone and again thats subjective because you arent kyle
by the same token he took a first aid kit (to possibly help any defender or protestor)
but he did not have his hands on his gun when he took a fire extenguisher and put out a dumpster the rioters had set on fire and was rolling it to inject it into a church ---- he had the right to shoot then if there were people inside

so if you want to attack with feelings at least use wisconsin statutes because his rights dont end where your feelings begin thats why we have statutes

by the way huber and grosskreutz traveled about the same distance as kyle to be there
so by your logic they were wrong for even being there (which just like kyle they had every right to be there)



now lets get all our feeling condemnation out
its my subjective statement rosenbaum had his eyes on kyle to screw the underage kid and seeing he had previously molested 5 other underage kids i feel its a pretty reasonable assumption
huber loved his domestic assaults and i guess when its not your girlfriend and a kid that you are strangling/imprisoning you have to find another kid to work on
grosskreutz was also a felon and there is no question he was illegally carrying a gun

now all of that i just added about them isnt a reason for them to die but the whole what goes around comes around or karma argument plays into a subjective opinion that needs not be entertained but comes as a retrospective thought regardless
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:01 pm

-1 : Move to archive wrote:So you agree it was right for them to shoot him? You read his mind? You watched his every movement and word that night? You know ferk all. You know what you think you need to know to prove your prejudice. You carry the same blindness to motive and deed as those who deny any wrongdoing by every side on these protests. But with you its a holy act of patriotic belief and for them its evil communist machination.

Burnt any witches lately?


im saying he was not wrong for being there and or carrying the weapon.

if i went to one of those protests i woild too, ive noticed how violent those morons get.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:04 pm

You are like the guy sitting in a jam complaining about the traffic.

You are the traffic.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby DezNutz » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:10 pm

Lord Mustache wrote:I hunt both deer and foul. For the deer I use a 30ot6 semi-auto and sometimes a 30/30 semi-auto. The It's a regular 4x scope with a wire cross hair. For foul I use a 20 gauge which is also a semi-auto. Sometimes I hunt squrrel, which I use a 22 with no sight for.

Safety rules he was violating?

1. Keep the barrel pointing away from other people

2. keep the barrel pointing away from other people

3. KEEP THE BARREL POINTING AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE

The 4 conditions:

4. The hammer is down, there is no ammo in the mag, and the hammer is not cocked

3. Same as #4, but I think the mag has ammo in it?

2. Same as #3, but there is ammo in the chamber

1. The chamber has ammo, there is mag with ammo in it in place, and the hammer is cocked.

Did I get those right?

Did you think I was lying?


30ot6.....LOL you mean 30-06?

When did he point the barrel at anyone other then when he was defending himself.

Your knowledge of weapons and safety is limited and lacking. Condition 2 doesn't apply to rifles. Condition 2 is for Single/Double Action Pistols/Revolvers and some Machine Guns (although the condition is different). Since you aren't 18, you can't own or possess a handgun in Minnesota. Your weapons safety class in order to go hunting isn't what I would call a certification. Don't present yourself as an authority on weapon and firearm safety, as you clearly aren't.

As well, be like Avis and try harder the next time you copy and paste using google search.
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