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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Leo the Conqueror » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:27 am

That is a valid point. Although there still is not a simple solution, so really anything that we can do helps.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:44 pm

so vote trump hes for peace in the middle east
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Redbard » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:41 pm

How do you define Peace? Also do you really think Trump cares about Peace? You should wake up and stop deceiving yourself.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby William one eye » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:40 pm

Trump makes money off hotels, resorts, golf coarses, ect
Not of oil and military contracts, unlike quite a few politicians
so why would he not favor peace over war. Peace and less travel restrictiins, means more buisness opportunities for him.

Im do not know if enough trust could ever be established between Palestine and Isreal for them to agree on something. I fully realize it is not as simple as these two groups alone, as thier are plenty of outside influences also driving the agression and stoking distrust. Im am certainly not claiming to be an ex0ert on the subject.

Countries moveing towards peace and away from instigating wars might not solve the problem but its a step in the right direction.

Perhaps you are offended by Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, recent call for religious tolerance of Jews,
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Redbard » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:07 pm

First you admit that Trump will do anything to help himself make money. And I thought he wanted to build the military not destroy it. and speaking of oil why are we in Syria controlling the oil field.
Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais is a stooge for the royal family and will say anything he is told to say if he doesn't want to end up as a guest to MBS.
These countries are dictatorships and will do anything as long they hold to the chair. Who cares about human right and all this bull as long Trump get nominated to the noble prize.
Peace is usually done between waring faction. What is the last time these countries fired a bullet at each other? NEVER.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:30 pm

Redbard wrote:First you admit that Trump will do anything to help himself make money. And I thought he wanted to build the military not destroy it. and speaking of oil why are we in Syria controlling the oil field.
Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais is a stooge for the royal family and will say anything he is told to say if he doesn't want to end up as a guest to MBS.
These countries are dictatorships and will do anything as long they hold to the chair. Who cares about human right and all this bull as long Trump get nominated to the noble prize.
Peace is usually done between waring faction. What is the last time these countries fired a bullet at each other? NEVER.


first i compleatly disagree with you, on trump will do anything to make himself money. he may push the limits but i think he has better moral values than you want to guve him credit for..

tell me about an inhumane act from donald trump please.

how in any way is he destroying the military?

when did we get to syria and start controling those fields?

abdule whoever isnt trump...
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Redbard » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:07 pm

Attacking a dead poisoner of war says a lot about Trump morals. John McCain is dead give it a rest. insulting the men and women of the arm forces says a lot about him morals.

200k dead American and over 6 million case and Trump talk about red and blue states. COVID 19 is doesn't know the difference between red and blue, it is a threat to all Americans.
“If you take the blue states out,” he said, “we’re at a level that I don’t think anybody in the world would be at. We’re really at a very low level.”


Syria oil fields and these trump words look it up:
“We’ve secured the oil and, therefore, a small number of U.S. troops will remain in the area where they have the oil,” Trump said during an Oct. 23 press conference. “And we’re going to be protecting it, and we’ll be deciding what we’re going to do with it in the future.”
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby William one eye » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:14 pm

Trump has not really increased defensive spending.
Its increasing by a small percentage each year.
However you must consider costs follow inflation.
Over hes way more reserved on military spending than
Other right leaning presidents.

I was not talking about the nations interest in military oil or
War. I was talking about individual insterests of politicians driving national direction. How many politiciab around the world have personal buisness investment the tie to arms manufacturing, war time supply chains, and some part of the oil industry.

If the Saudi royal family are indeed pushing tolerance of Jews through Mecca, as you suggest, would that not also suggest they are considering jojnjng the accord?

I Do not agree with US taking syrian oil.
I understand the reasoning however.
It is not the correct way to do things.
I honestly dont think we should be in Syria at all.

Nobel peace prize. Meh they seem to hand out like candy.
They should be reserved for truely amazing accomplishments.
But i since the precident is set is does not surprise me he was nominated.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:33 pm

Nomination is not approval by nor at the invitation of the Nobel Prize Committee. There are a whole raft of folk who can nominate anyone for it.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

As both nominater and nominees are kept secret for 50 years after the Prize date in question, no-one can actually prove who has been nominated until they either win it or fifty years later.

And yes, I have been nominated too. Prove otherwise.


The UAE - Israel agreement is not a 'peace deal' : its a normalisation of diplomatic relations which has been in the pipeline for the last decade, mainly via covert and some open co-operation to combat their mutual enemy Iran. Given that co-operation has included military and intelligence cooperation, the two nations were hardly 'at war'.

So, PR and spin. In terms of bringing peace to the region it ranks about as highly as ordering extra fries with your burger.
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Re: TRUMP 2020!

Postby Mack » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:09 pm

i still think he is anti war, unless nessesary.

i think this covid crap is blown up way bigger than it really is..
they keep finding more and more cases of fraud with the numbers of cases, the way they count the deaths... still the numbers dont compare with the friggin flu! how is the nation in this shape over that nothingness.. open your eyes

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