Nation Diplomacy

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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby PFH » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:10 pm

Would it be broken if allied nations could send gold to each other's treasuries? Like from treasury to treasury. It would be a council vote for the sender's side and would take a 3 day and 12 hours vote for the process to be finalized. This would allow allied nations to support each other directly in means of a nation war. Just an idea
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby William one eye » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:23 pm

PFH wrote:Would it be broken if allied nations could send gold to each other's treasuries? Like from treasury to treasury. It would be a council vote for the sender's side and would take a 3 day and 12 hours vote for the process to be finalized. This would allow allied nations to support each other directly in means of a nation war. Just an idea


i suggested nearly the same thing a few posts back

William one eye wrote:A useful function between alliance nations would be the ability for send treasury funds to a member(s) of an alliance nation.
or possibly just directly to the treasury of the alliance nation.

I can, however see where this could come with some risk of exploitation.
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby Cdv » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:29 pm

Treaty Details
War

Between the proud nations of Isle of Man and Niue
THIS TREATY HAS EXPIRED on DAY 1,851

War has been declared on day 1,851 by Niue Captain Da Vinci (#12701)

Can this be worded better?
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby Stan Rogers » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:10 am

Cdv wrote:Treaty Details
War

Between the proud nations of Isle of Man and Niue
THE TREATY WAS TERMINATED on DAY 1,851

War has been declared on day 1,851 by Captain Da Vinci (#12701) of Niue


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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby Lefty » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:51 am

Paraguay has DECLARED WAR against St Kitts-Nevis !
I was unable to set any rewards/bonuses for attacking St Kitts-nevis. All I could do was declare war.
When will the rest of the options be available?
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby PFH » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:19 am

William one eye wrote:
PFH wrote:Would it be broken if allied nations could send gold to each other's treasuries? Like from treasury to treasury. It would be a council vote for the sender's side and would take a 3 day and 12 hours vote for the process to be finalized. This would allow allied nations to support each other directly in means of a nation war. Just an idea


i suggested nearly the same thing a few posts back

William one eye wrote:A useful function between alliance nations would be the ability for send treasury funds to a member(s) of an alliance nation.
or possibly just directly to the treasury of the alliance nation.

I can, however see where this could come with some risk of exploitation.

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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:00 pm

PK, do you have a problematic voting? Can you be more specific?

Poppy, this law is not yet implemented.

William, I assume we can add a report that you are waiting for the other nation to decide. We will try to do this today.

Astragek, this can't happen. Why would you know what the other parliament is doing? This falls into espionage part (not yet implemented, right?) but you can still ask the other nation officials ;)

Kangaroo, normally, npcs should be affected just as normal. For early version though, till we have a clear picture on how we proceed, this will not be the case. Once this is implemented though, the Governor will stop giving as targets allied nations or nations at peace, so this should not be a big problem. Still, we cannot do it right away as this also affects NPC generation at ports. As you can see, the dependencies are getting larger and larger as we simply analyze it, therefore patience will be needed at this part.

PFH, the diplomacy discussion suggest that there will be the ability to send funds from one treasury to another. Since we already have the Send Payment feature, which indirectly solves all needs to funds movement of any national treasury, this is not a priority. Ideally, we would like to first implement tribute possibilities. Or better said, automatic payments. Payments that will come with every pact, not treaty.

Taking it a bit further, Vassal stance for example, might be a Pact with an ally. This is at least our current impression as development unfolds. Take notice that the feature code-wise is pretty complex. Not that big, but complex and we are taking one step at a time in order to build it in the best way possible. We keep in mind the CommonWealth system as well and for all these to happen, we need to take good decision on code development side. This is why Vassal has not entered the initial version. Because we are still undecided in which is the best way to implement it code wise. Most probably, it will be a pact though.

CDV, which is the wording issue there? We are open to suggestions.
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby William one eye » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:18 pm

War between Niue and IoM. Message states war had been declared.... but also, Has a message that reads this treaty has expired. Not certain this is correct, unless someone cancelled the war declaration.

War between paraguay and IoM. Message states - war has been declared between IoM and Paraguay on day....
It also shows options to stop war and cease fire
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby PhoenixKnight » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:25 pm

Captain Jack wrote:PK, do you have a problematic voting? Can you be more specific?


CJ, when the vote is finalized it was supposed to be resolved top of the hour. It took more like 4 hours for the treaty to be established and the notification sent between St. Kitts and IoM.
It happened in the end but took longer than expected
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Re: Nation Diplomacy

Postby Captain Jack » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:23 pm

William one eye wrote:War between Niue and IoM. Message states war had been declared.... but also, Has a message that reads this treaty has expired. Not certain this is correct, unless someone cancelled the war declaration.

War between paraguay and IoM. Message states - war has been declared between IoM and Paraguay on day....
It also shows options to stop war and cease fire


That's because Nieu also declared war. This is why the first declaration is invalid as the new declaration is the valid one. The problem here lies that Nieu was able to declare war when already at war. This is that needs to be fixed.
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