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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Donald Trump » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:38 am

That type of information is beyond news. Only inferences can be made. I am sorry for that poor answer. I simply do not not know.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Lana » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:40 am

DoS wrote:That type of information is beyond news. Only inferences can be made. I am sorry for that poor answer. I simply do not not know.


Fair enough! :)
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby DezNutz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:42 pm

DoS wrote:Total elimination of public education or severe budget cuts is the goal.

Pretty sure those aren't actual reforms to "better public education." Just trying to scrap the entire thing.


LOL. I laughed so hard, I almost pissed myself. He isn't going to eliminate public education. He is working to eliminate the Department of Education, a Federal Entity that shouldn't exist constitutionally and give educational discretion back to the states were it belongs and was before the Dept. of Edu. was created. Public schools are funded by the states they reside in with the states receiving additional funds from the Federal Government. That will not change, what will is that education policy will be local to the states and not be determined by the Federal Government.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:53 pm

Great, I foresee a swift return to the good old days of certain states deciding education policy shouldnt be left to anyone who knows anything about education : no doubt we will see a reform of science education to better reflect proper thinking : example question : Zeke has 2 dinosaurs and one plough : each dinosaur can work for 2 hours and plough 35 furlongs in that time : How long will it take Zeke to plough 489 hectares ready for spring wheat? Still, equations will get a lot easier for our children when Pi is officially declared to be 3 again, as one great state used to have it. Intelligent Creation? Surely we only have to look at politicians to see an irrefutable rebuttal of that notion.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby DezNutz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:08 pm

DoS wrote:Kinda tired of Republic presidents constantly saying, "We will improve the American Army."

Haven't we gone far enough? We nearly quadruple second place in spending. There is absolutely no need for "more spending." The way I see it, some budget cuts need to be made. Too much going into the army, and too little going into the people's need. I think the proxy war versus ISIS which is really US vs Russia is not a means of national importance. It is a utter waste of resources.

Another attempt to destabilize the Middle East just so we can show Russia who has the bigger wallet. Apparently once was not enough.


Haven't we gone far enough with cellular phones, computers, TVs, etc.? Why should Apple or any of those other companies research, develop, and implement new equipment. The existing equipment has "gone far enough".

Haven't we gone far enough with improving Pirates Glory? The game is great as it stands. Why should the developers work on new features or improvements?

You should read up on the concept of deterrence.

Spending billions of dollars on research that never goes into production, while at the same time not updating our military's existing equipment is an inherent problem. A bulk of the equipment that the US military uses is 30+ years old, and instead of updating the existing equipment specifications using modern technology, the bureaucracy of idiots spend money on researching completely new designs. Then there is the waste, which a whole different discussion.


Danik wrote:Great, I foresee a swift return to the good old days of certain states deciding education policy shouldnt be left to anyone who knows anything about education : no doubt we will see a reform of science education to better reflect proper thinking : example question : Zeke has 2 dinosaurs and one plough : each dinosaur can work for 2 hours and plough 35 furlongs in that time : How long will it take Zeke to plough 489 hectares ready for spring wheat? Still, equations will get a lot easier for our children when Pi is officially declared to be 3 again, as one great state used to have it. Intelligent Creation? Surely we only have to look at politicians to see an irrefutable rebuttal of that notion.


Not saying that every state has the best setups, but having education determined by the idiotic bureaucrats in the Federal Government is exponentially worse. Furthermore, that is the point of the elections in the states. If they fail to implement proper policies, you vote them out of office and put someone in there that will, the whole while the education policies are only for that state and not the country as a whole. So if you don't like the education policies in a particular state, you have 49 other choices in which you can move to.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Psychodad » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:22 pm

Being a goat herder is protection from all you fear. You have goats, land that is inhospitable for most other uses and a good dog. (found by asking each dog you meet, "Who's a good dog?" and waiting for one to answer).

You and your dog and your goats wander the earth bringing goats milk and noxious weeds management to all you encounter, then move on before forming relationships that inevitably begin to degrade and become dysfunctional.

You greet the sunrise and begin your journey, stopping each evening to linger over a fire and a dinner of feta and something else. Then repeat the next day.

Never having to care who the president is, what the DOW has reached today, who's twiddling who or anything else. Just count your goats, pet your dog, walk and breath.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:09 pm

I'm strongly in favor of the notion that a state which votes to remove itself from any federal involvement in education should also lose any federal funding or support for that purpose. If it feels the EPA is too onerous, it should declare itself free of it : along with that would go any federal funding for environmental related issues : no more FEMA, no more disaster aid too. No more feeding at the federal trough with pork-barrel contracts and placement of federal buildings and institutions too. If a state wants its own gun laws, it should also decline federal funds for local ATF enforcement too.
As it is, populist politicians get to campaign to keep the feds out but still take the money it gives. equalize that issue and then see what gets voted for.
After all, the precedent is there, with the current administration moving even further into defining what federal funds can be used for with regard to family planning and such.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Bmw » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:19 pm

once the feds got involved in schools stuff went from working well to down below the toilet. The numbers of test's exams or whatever you want to call them went through the roof. It would probably be best if the states each decided there own educational systems better yet they have state testing and each school does there own thing. Before the feds got involved in testing and other things testing was good now its insane it went from an end of the year exam to a major exam like that but every quarter of the year it sucks.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:29 pm

Re : the military investment issue : its comparing apples and tanks, they are two different creatures.

Big companies like Apple have enormous production that must be kept running : this means they cant rest once they have sold this years model : they must create a new reason to buy next years one : so, like the car industry, very little of each years model is radically new or advanced beyond last years one : bigger screen, better camera, different shape, thinner, wider, shorter, new colors, shinier trimmings, new names. all to create a 'must-have' buzz which has us all binning last years model and buying the next.

The military can't work that way : they buy a product in the millions and need it standardized for use by each generation of newly trained troops : it needs to be fit for purpose, rugged to survive battle conditions and idiot-proof so it works every time, regardless of the users ability or skill levels. It must be scalable : the current army may be 1 million troops : in war, that might need expanding to 2 million in a very short period : so vast stockpiles must be held : workshops and repair facilities need to be put in place : parts inventories and trained personnel to maintain and train new users : not in one place, but in many, both domestically and overseas. Continuity is important : the Armed Servcies cant afford to retrain everyone every year for the latest update to a piece of equipment, nor re-stock its inventories and dispose of the now obselete equipment. Thus new equipment undergoes a rigorous process of procurement, testing and evaluating as the sheer scale demands it cant afford to get it wrong and once in place, the services needs to be able to rely on it for decades to make the process worthwhile. And all straight out of the box from day one of service. So no, it dont come cheap nor fast nor easily 'updateable' every year.
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Re: Adjusting to a new president

Postby PhoenixKnight » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:59 pm

He will have a short term. Who is ready for president Pence?
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