Trump 2020!

[The Lamb]

So im guessing no one, and i mean NO ONE appreciated the slow clap i gave to dman? Come on, you only get those in 90 movies

[Dmanwuzhere]

So im guessing no one, and i mean NO ONE appreciated the slow clap i gave to dman? Come on, you only get those in 90 movies

applause with my name lol no one and i mean NO ONE likes that

[Meliva]

So im guessing no one, and i mean NO ONE appreciated the slow clap i gave to dman? Come on, you only get those in 90 movies

I initially thought when you said slow clap it was to be condescending until I thoroughly read your post. Since there's 2 different kinds of slow clap(that I know of anyway). Theres the one where generally a bad guy, or sometimes just a wise-arse does it as mock applause and then follows it with some sort of sarcastic compliment.

Example.
*slow clap* Wow, well done Mike, you managed to win a fight against a couple girl scouts. What a tough guy you are.

But now I know you're referring to when a clap starts off slow, with just one person, then it speeds up and more join in.

Regardless, good joke, and nice addition.

[Redish]

Anyone else think that some of these accusations against Iran were trumped up?

[Lana]

As everything in this world controlled by few ''international'' news agencies, arms manufacturers and greedy populist leaders...and money, of course.

[Whitcomb The Feared]

@Meliva
The history stated by Mack has compeltely no sense. First because the other side says that israel started the war while israel says that arab started. I never said who started the first attack, because you don't know neither do i, i just said that if israel didn't start colonization, they wouldn't be permanetly surrounded by enemies ! but they started and now they are one of the most militarized country with missile shields.

@Dman
you understood nothing about the story of the children taken by their families. It was legal ! there was a law allowing the state to take children from homes where they were poor, beaten, abandoned, ... to put them in farms instead of putting them in orphanages. Here in switzerland, farms were places where people lived better than in cities where ther was lack of everything. But of course, in farms they weren't treated well because of farmers ignorance and brutality. It is why the state pays those children, because it feels guilty for something that happened 70 years ago with other laws and other executives.

again you ignore what happens here i have a gun at home and we have private property. just we can't shoot at people and we don't have the constat fear to be killed. I have some family in USA and they always tell me they are afraid to be killed just when they walk.

bribery ? you say that farmers paid the state to have free labor ? again NO FACTS. read the story if you know german, it is explained. i don't know where you got that information.

what is the problem with neutrality ? switzerland has been a superior military power during middle age, with swiss mercenaries fighting everywhere (and we still are mercenaries for the pope). then they decided that to avoid problems by fighting each other (in many battles there were swiss mercenaries on both sides) cantons (the US state by comparison) decided to become neutral in the middle of superpowers.
That banks took nazi gold was not illegal, because at the same time we also kept american, english, ... all the gold possible. we sold weapons to both sides. OSS (former CIA) operated on swiss soil. and now switzerland is responsible for US-iran intermediation in iran, cause you don't have an embassy in iran anymore. this is neutrality and USA also take advantage from it. you don't like, ask it to be deleted and you will see what will happen

guys i even receive messages in game where people tell me how americans are so nationalistic and ignore what happens around them. it is absurd how much americans want to impose their views even by using violence, around the world. command in USA and stop bothering around. even if you spend money around it doesn't mean you can say or do what you want

oh and meliva, jews were in jerusalem and around, but the jews who created israel in 1948 were not technically jews ! they were from other nationalities, so yes ... they conquered a land that wasn't theirs. So we can say the same, europeans created USA ... now USA must become Europe and under Europe command, because we built usa lol. you would be against this idea ! it is the same in palestine.

[Dmanwuzhere]

lana this has been going on since may of last year initially i believe its all over the nuclear program and then the sanctions added but there are several noted small attacks on american and british people using proxy forces which the general killed was known to lead
we dont want them scaling up their nuclear program and they dont want sanctions of over 40billion bucks but neither side wants to appear weak

several us companies are affected by the sanctions namely boeing who before the sanctions had a contract to supply 330 planes of 3 different types of which only 16 were delivered
and iran loses out on some good income from pistachios carpets and autos but nowhere near the loss boeing takes
and thats pretty much the first round of sanctions there were a couple more things but none near as big as the ones mentioned except the gold bullion as payment for oil which i think is over 60 tonnes

and thats just the first sanctions but some civil companies were sanctioned later due to accusations of furthering irans military programs but i havent found the proof of that yet and due to classification of some materials may be a few months to a few years before being put out

i really dont see our benefit to lie as a nation but i do know july first the un watchdogs confirmed irans cap of enriched uranium went above the 300 kilo limit




i believe the rocket that landed close to the embassy in baghdad on may 19 would have been enough to spur me on to defending any actions against them

but this is an easily followable escalation from both sides due to pride and policies from last year to now and several other nations have offered to broker talks between the two in the past year or so


whit
speaking of blind defense in spite of facts in defense of your country can you say whit lol
they were taking the children way before they made one person the sole guardian of every child born to those people perhaps you need to research the dates it began and when ensuing policies were made to cover their azzes and make it legal
and i guess the laws requiring that states guardian signature for adult marriages were to keep them from bad families as well lol

as i said its been fun whit but i hate to see a guy foaming at the mouth enjoy your firm belief your nation is free from guilt
and as for any letter you may receive from another nationality will it make it true if i send you one stating my beliefs
absolutely not
the problem is your a feelings kinda guy your emotions and beliefs run on feelings not documentation
your complaints are all feelings yet you say legal is the ultimate truth and maker of right and wrong
it was lawful to own slaves here and many americans instead of staying neutral felt strongly enough in opposition to give their life to end it
but its ok in your neck of the woods because it was legal and why rock the boat if it can kill ya .... right yeah whatever

see ya when you have acts committed by trump that are illegal or stay neutral which means i wont be seeing you lol

[Whitcomb The Feared]

dman you provided 0 facts, 0 data, nothing of nothing haha and i am the guy using feelings you ignore many many things and you still try to debate lol.
Laws in swutzerland exist since 1848, our first constitution. and we had before the cantonal laws (but i am not sure you understand what does state indipendence on national laws means). so you don't even provide facts or laws that prove that swiss took slaves to give them as free slaves to farmers lol you are inventing a story cause you cannot defend yours.

I never said that trump is illegal and we have free speech as you have, so i can say whatever i prefer on trump, with facts of course, something you aren't doing at all. USA interventions are bringing violence and we see it. You have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and we should trust you ? ahaha but of course iran cannot have a nuclear bomb cause you don't trust them ... who cares ! you are trying to keep all the planet under your control and this just generates violence that you receive in the face as 9/11, and you don't understand that many countries and many people would like to solve their problems without your intervention ! i just said that.
On trump, if there is a legal impecheament (a legal thing), it is because there is a problem. now i don't care if he will win or lose cause i don't care of trump nor of usa, i just say that usa shouldn't be involved in foreign problems nor attacking everyone just to keep superiority. this just generate problems. And in the last weeks US army and trump proved to have incoherence. First they send by mistake a letter to iraq explaining you will retreat, then trump administration said it was a mistake. then you get militarily attacked but no militar attack back to iran lol de-escalation they said ... let iran make its own business and leave iraq, nobody wants you there. nor somewhere else.

[Dmanwuzhere]

i understand you think without a trial trump is impeached and due to the swiss example of removing children for labor without a court trial i can see where you get your one sided legal views.
im beginning to think pelosi is swiss now lol

i dont need to provide evidence you can go to your own nations website and fund the charity that tries to repair the people your nation broke thats sad really
when you visit your nations web page click where it says Oder suchen Sie Unterlagen über das "Hilfswerk" "Kinder der Landstrasse" der Pro Juventute? and tell them you have removed your doors and welcome the victims to all your property
there are plenty of documentaries from sbs dateline to hundreds of others and a paper trail that lasts as long as your attention will
research it yourself as you have provided no proof of anything other than your an emotional feelings kinda guy
plus it seems you need to be educated on your own country so class is in and you now have homework

poor whit

[The Lamb]

So here is what I know. My family line goes back France to Charlemagne, which only says so much since that guy really got around . Back then we were the Franks ( The Swiss and the French, part of the Holy Roman Empire) so i think the Swiss are ok with me .

Whit your right, that the USA does have the most Nukes, we have the best military in history, but with that comes problems for us as well. There are nations that really would like to wipe out entire groups of people. And i dont blame the Swiss for for staying neutral, for while they have some great soldiers, they dont have the military to affect change globally nor the finances or population to build one. But, be careful, being neutral by choice is virtuous, being neutral for survival is a different thing. If China or USA take neutral stance it has a different meaning than if the Dominican Republic does, ya feel me. We dont want to be the world police, its just that no one else can, and we have a lot of people here who like to help others even if it is sometimes misguided.

I would love to believe that everyone can get along, but not everyone is the same, not everyone thinks the same, and not everyone wants the same outcome. Turns out everyone is capable of lieing, turns out not all news media is only reporting the news, turns out most Americans would like like to focus on America (America first), but you should really look to what your saying. You say We shouldn't be America first and should help all those at our borders and more, but in the same breath say that we should not focus on things outside of America when it comes to hostel nations and we should mind our business.

It cant be both ways, either we are interventionists for peace and war or we are not.

One Final thought, had not the USA intervened in WWII, how long do you think the AXIS powers would have gone controlling all the land surrounding Switzerland but not taking Switzerland? Once again its pure speculation, but I feel that Hitler may not have been a man of his word, and he may have taken it too. It would be like if America has all of the continental USA except for Kentucky lol. So not all military intervention is bad, although it would be nice if we could give back California.