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[DezNutz]

It was a provoked instigation. He hit my ports so lets insult him

You do understand that this sorta undermines your complaint.

If he is creating a toxic environment, why would you provoke him. Why stoop to his level? This puts you in the same boat as him.

Calling someone names in response to a port being hit is no better than what you complain dman does. It's hypocritical at best.

Do you not understand the flaw in your logic?

[PFH]

Do you not understand the flaw dman is? The system needs fixed. Hes not gunna be a real threat to anyone after this.

Have you seen his chest?

[DezNutz]

Do you not understand the flaw dman is? The system needs fixed. Hes not gunna be a real threat to anyone after this.

Have you seen his chest?

I think you have a serious problem.

Your interaction and discontent for dman is verging on the point of obsessive.

You are consumed with such discontent, that you are acting in a manner that reflects poorly on yourself and falls inline with the actions you claim dman is "guilty" of.

Do you think you are better than anyone else? I can tell you with absolute certainty that you are no better than any other player here, including dman.

You are riding on some high horse, trying to launch a crusade against a player.

Yes, Dman is an ass. He pushes the boundaries of acceptability in the forums, but his actions are not for you, I, or any other player to judge. He plays the game within the defined mechanics. If his actions are deemed unacceptable by CJ, then consequences will be handed down. But I'll be damned if I'm going to sit on the sidelines and watch as you make claims against a player then turn around and act in the same manner he does. And blow it off like dman is some demon that must be destroyed, when asked about what you are doing.

Stop being a child and grow up. Every action of dman's is not griefing, nefarious, or toxic.


And to be fair to all those out there. Dman, stop being an ass all the time. This goes for everyone. There is good banter that can be encountered and there is the crap that has been going on here. It ends now.

Cut the crap in the forums, both of you. I will start removing every post either of you make, if this crap continues. And I say that knowing that I enjoy the ridiculous commentary that you two have previously posted. This is just being petty.

[PFH]

Firstly im going to say this once and only once. No im not better than anyone i dont know where you got that impression.

Obsessive? For fighting for what j believe is right? Sorry if im mistaken i believe im in the right here.

Have i extorted anyone? Have i targetted weaker players? Have i made fun of gays or transgenders? Yeah i made one mom joke at feniks and he got bitter. Sorry oh well it was a one time thing. Same CANNOT be said for dman.

This crusade is well deserved for this player who has made players hate the game. Remember that natsu palooza crusade? Hmmm

I have to act on the same manner? Hah i dont remember going as low as to use slanter and belittling actions to make myself feel good. No i think he needs a spanking so ill do it as seen as committed by himself.

Being a child for standing up for other targetted players! Okay

I say this because not to continue the crap, but to contradict what youve said in above post.

I havent turned around. My back never turned toward him. Im facing him head on, and he knows it.

Stay on the sidelines. This isnt a matter for dispute. This topic hasnt been locked and i dont think ive violated any forum rules. It falls in line with the topic and i havent used grotesque language abuse.

[DezNutz]

You are right it hasn't been locked. It is now.

[PFH]

I dont think you should lock it because this is a post in the union of honor and flaming is expected.

[DezNutz]

If you have a problem with my decision to lock a topic, you can bring up with me in PM and are free to discuss it with CJ and Meliva.

[PFH]

I wouldnt have a problem

But there really isnt a reason to lock it. Its an ongoing discussion. Just like hammer of thor this will evolve into the same. That topic wasnt locked so i dont believe this one should be either.

[Meliva]

I am going to have to side with Dez on this issue. And I would like to recommend that everyone involved, however much or little take a step back, do something else, and come back later refreshed and cooled off.

This thread, has frankly gone on long enough. 38 pages, not counting other topics created similar to this all over just a few players is honestly insane. It's not even a friendly fight, or banter, and certainly not clever or creative-it's just petty, vindictive and angry. Which I don't think anyone wants to see-at least not 38+pages of it.

I am fairly certain all involved in this thread are adults. Or close to it, so please, act like it. Get whatever grudges you all hold out your system and just fight it out, and keep the forums clean and clear. Witty banter is fine, so is the occasional PG insult, but it shouldn't evolve into anything further then 10+ pages in my opinion.


Edit- and Also, mods, please do not moderate other mods actions, nor undo or undermine other mods in any way. This makes us ALL look bad whatever your intention may be, and it causes discord among us. Message eachother privately when issues arise, and if you 2 can't work it out, ask me to step in.

-Mel