On the topic of bullying, mod behavior and other issues.

[Meliva]

Since I have been called to act, I suppose I have to get off my lazy rear and address a few things.

Firstly I would like to remind everyone that even if you personally dislike or even outright hate someone, you should not harass them via words or actions. Witty banter and occasional raids are fine, and even encouraged to a degree. Things would be dreadfully boring if we all just sat together singing kumbaya and eating smores. Tasty though they may be.

Secondly I would like to encourage all the players and mods to refresh themselves on the rules of the forum and game, and try to adhere to them. And that for the mods to reread Mod conduct and behavior. I don't like having to dictate or moderate other's words, It's the worst part of the job, and I doubt others like it any more then me.

Now some have in the past and even now said that as admins and mods we should act in a professional manner, and that jokes and engaging in banter should be refrained from. I personally love joking around if you hadn't noticed. Perhaps I will make a poll asking what the community thinks of this subject and let them decide.

Regardless I do agree that we need to try to ensure that folks know whether or not we are being serious or not. As tone does not go through text very well. Which is why using red text is required when editing posts-I will also state that perhaps from now on all admin and mod statements should be made with red text. Or perhaps Green if it isn't a warning. And any other color will be treated as a player speaking as a player-not an official.

I will also say that those who do not like banter or conflict should stay out of Union of Honor-and that those who wish to banter should keep it in Union of Honor. We have that thread for a reason after all.

I would like to remind all mods and Admin that using any of your abilities-editing, banning, blocking, should be done as a last resort and to always try to keep a cool head when using them. And before you go and do anything try to talk things out with the player in question. If that fails then do what is needed and no more.

And to players I would like to remind that us mods and Admin are just ordinary folks-far as I know anyway. We can have bad days and get mad just like you. And we can act stupid and make mistakes just like you. Best thing to do is try to show us some respect, especially if we are trying to help you with a problem or giving a friendly warning, and if it seems like you are being treated unfairly contact another mod or me and report the issue.

Signed-that weird old Elf girl who won't shut up.
Aka-Meliva(#58298)

[Cdv]

Regardless I do agree that we need to try to ensure that folks know whether or not we are being serious or not. As tone does not go through text very well. Which is why using red text is required when editing posts-I will also state that perhaps from now on all admin and mod statements should be made with red text. Or perhaps Green if it isn't a warning. And any other color will be treated as a player speaking as a player-not an official.

+1
I think this could help with the miscommunication that has been going on in the last few threads.

[Psychodad]

I have trouble seeing red text against a light back ground...

[Meliva]

I have trouble seeing red text against a light back ground...

Hmm. Maybe a discussion could be held on what would be the easiest color to read in general. Though I think most find Red easy.

Or perhaps instead of changing color underlining would be better to separate statements.

Or perhaps a short disclaimer to state that what is being typed is personal opinion of the player, not a statement.

Plenty of ways that this can be handled. I suppose so long as one of the methods is used it doesn't matter too much which one it is.

[Captain Jack]

Nice post , Meliva.

On the subject on separating the roles, we can always let this to the players to guess, just like now. Indeed we will keep getting issues but we will all become smarter trying to figure out. Plus, it allows for manoeuvres from admins side, something always handy

[Psychodad]

I have trouble seeing red text against a light back ground...

Hmm. Maybe a discussion could be held on what would be the easiest color to read in general. Though I think most find Red easy.

Or perhaps instead of changing color underlining would be better to separate statements.

Or perhaps a short disclaimer to state that what is being typed is personal opinion of the player, not a statement.

Plenty of ways that this can be handled. I suppose so long as one of the methods is used it doesn't matter too much which one it is.

Moderators comments should be strictly in pig latin...serves two purposes:
1. separates the moderators comments easily.
2. forces players to depigify the latin thus giving a respite between skimming and reacting.

Problem solved, send me some credits.

[Dmanwuzhere]

witty banter and occasional raids
funny how the raid part always gets thrown up when certain people are bound to get raided
grim complained he had been raided ..... in the middle of a war lol so what
suzy complained about it after weeks of acting stupid .... so what again
even the elf girl complained after casting magpies another so what

if you are trying to regulate raids i think that goes beyond the scope of modding and becomes more of a self interest thing

ravenlocke newbs were being targeted by suzy and another merc member for ships and those raids were fine
and thats after a couple days of vane attacking them


comparing the top list vs the bottom list i always find it funny to even hear raid complaints
seems it only applies in self preservation mode and not as a true standard

[DezNutz]

If you as a moderator can not separate your roles and responsibilities from game play banter, you should recuse yourself from the situation, ask another mod to get involved, and not use your privileges.

[Meliva]

witty banter and occasional raids
funny how the raid part always gets thrown up when certain people are bound to get raided
grim complained he had been raided ..... in the middle of a war lol so what
suzy complained about it after weeks of acting stupid .... so what again
even the elf girl complained after casting magpies another so what

if you are trying to regulate raids i think that goes beyond the scope of modding and becomes more of a self interest thing

ravenlocke newbs were being targeted by suzy and another merc member for ships and those raids were fine
and thats after a couple days of vane attacking them


comparing the top list vs the bottom list i always find it funny to even hear raid complaints
seems it only applies in self preservation mode and not as a true standard

I do not recall complaining about ever getting raided or hit. It's all part of the game. Course I don't like getting hit, but it does make things exciting if nothing else.

And no, I do not intend to try to regulate raids or pvp in any way-that's not for me to decide, and as I said-complete peace and no fighting would make for a boring game.

[PFH]

Which ravenlocke newb did i target?