Anti - Pirate Tools

[Admiral Nelson]

I personally think, another metric of fame is what you use to plunder. So the fame metric would still be 'ship based' however, it would be more on PvP partially what Shadowood suggested.

A person that uses a howker to plunder, should not be as "known" as the guy that uses 4 Man of War to plunder folk; obviously you would gain more with the Man of War and lose less.

I agree with part of that.

If you plunder with a SOTL or MoW the fame you plunder should be higher, but it should be counteracted by what you plunder. If you are plundering a fleet of howkers, the fame you plunder should not be as much as plundering a fleet of LMMs.

+1.

Might be 'defined' Fame Plunder Each Ship if you win the battle/Fame Loss per ship if you lose the battle. (Sotl vs Howker)

Fame gained from using Sotl: 10,000. Against 1 howker: 5,000.
Fame gained using Sotl vs Sotl: 35,000.

Then for example, 2.5% off the players fame. (Random example.)

[Most Lee Harmless]

Stan Rogers did propose a idea elsewhere in which the relative strengths of the opposing fleets governed fame gain/loss. I tend to agree with him : a SotL fleet beating a trade fleet is no big thing and doesnt warrant any kind of major fame gain. But a SotL fleet beating a MoW fleet does : thats punching above its weight and should bring fame and glory to its owner. I'd favor a system which rewarded success according to such a relative measure... not one governed by how many ships might be sailing 5 ports away.

[Shadowood]

Stan Rogers did propose a idea elsewhere in which the relative strengths of the opposing fleets governed fame gain/loss. I tend to agree with him : a SotL fleet beating a trade fleet is no big thing and doesnt warrant any kind of major fame gain. But a SotL fleet beating a MoW fleet does : thats punching above its weight and should bring fame and glory to its owner. I'd favor a system which rewarded success according to such a relative measure... not one governed by how many ships might be sailing 5 ports away.

This.. This right here!

A pirate needs to be smart. Yes voodoo helps. But there are several times where I am hitting SOTL fleets with a Sloop of War or Frigate. Or when Vane took a MoW with a single cutter. :O: (he almost screwed it up too. lol )

[Most Lee Harmless]

Exactly.. such acts are feats of glory and should generate more fame than is currently given for twatting an unarmed howker fleet aside...

[Meliva]

yeah I agree that ship types should affect fame loss or gain. And depending on what they take on should affect it too.
Maybe something like a multiplier affect.
Fighting a ship on its level(so a brig vs brig) is no change.
Fighting above its level could be like 10% gain,
Below could be a 10% hit.
Maybe another hit/bonus for trade ships fighting war ones, since I think it would be quite a story for a group of merchantmen to beat a fleet of brigs.