Gambling?

[DezNutz]

Again you make my point : its 'illegal' in the USA and thats it. Its not illegal in the countries in which the sites are based. You continue to miss the point that the internet is global but jurisdictions are local. You can google stuff in the USA that you are not permitted to see in China. So Google cannot operate the same way (if at all) in China. In the UK two 17yo's can marry, have kids, etc... but if they photograph their entirely legal loveplay and put it online.. they are child pornographers under many jurisdictions. Its daft on some levels but illustrates the hard point : there are few universal rules online but countless rules applied locally sometimes with great severity. If you run any kind of online presence then you have to consider a damn sight more than just what is allowed at home.

I'm fully aware of taking in to account laws of other nations, I have to consider it in my real job. Can you provide a country (and the subsequent laws used) that has banned the Assassin's Creed Game Franchise as a result of "gambling". Those games have internal mini-games that you can actually place bets on and result in winning and losing the in-game currency. The mini-games contained within are no different than what we are suggesting here.

[Most Lee Harmless]

No, I'm not going to hunt down case law on this. I merely rsise the issue that its not as simple as it looks and warn against assuming local rules are universally applied. As it stands some forms of gaming seem to be acceptable or lightlly regulated. But thats today and like the (US) off-shore gaming industry discovered after a few years... enforcement tomorrow can be a biatch.

[DezNutz]

Fair. If we consider this further and come up with a valid suggestion, we will ensure to check that the suggestion doesn't create issues internationally.

[Stan Rogers]

Going back a few years, I really enjoyed the gambling tables in the stand-alone game Red Dead Redemption. Not quite sure how the two might equate but I don't think, in that game, it was a violation of international laws on gambling?
WTF do I know ? I just liked the feature as a place to win and lose your pretend money

[DezNutz]

Going back a few years, I really enjoyed the gambling tables in the stand-alone game Red Dead Redemption. Not quite sure how the two might equate but I don't think, in that game, it was a violation of international laws on gambling?
WTF do I know ? I just liked the feature as a place to win and lose your pretend money

Pretend money is the key factor. But Danik does bring a reasonable concern for topics as such, we should be careful of international laws and ensure any suggestion that stray into potential legal realms doesn't cause issue with international players.

[Most Lee Harmless]

Going back a few years, I really enjoyed the gambling tables in the stand-alone game Red Dead Redemption. Not quite sure how the two might equate but I don't think, in that game, it was a violation of international laws on gambling?
WTF do I know ? I just liked the feature as a place to win and lose your pretend money

The current version has generated some outcry and demands that an element be removed because of potential 'hate crime'. A bit snowflake for most and not even comment worthy a few years back. What is it...well, you can beat and/or kill innocent bystanders.. one of whom is a suffragette. Which would probably have gone unnoticed until folk started posting examples of such beatings/killings online and now the outrage is getting traction with some politicos. I understand the makers have since modded the code...

[Shadowood]

Ill make a wager that this won't get implemented. 10/1 odds.
Any takers?

[Shadowood]

In all seriousness however...

I love the idea of some form of gambling. It fits the game and with so many HUGE games world wide that have an in game gambling element, I would say PG is probably safe to create a feature that allows such.

I would take it a step further and I believe this has been mentioned in a few other posts. I would have this as a Port Building that a player can invest in.

You would be able to level it up, set house rules, house bank limits and with each level you gain the ability to unlock more seats at the table or even new games. (Black Jack, Poker, Roulette).

Each level the house takes more profit and pays less percentage in taxes to the controlling ports nation (Gambling Tax).

As mentioned the house would have its own BANK of coin to use. This coin is not safe as a player(s) could go on a heater and take all the house money. Each level will increase the amount able to store in gambling BANK. There would be a cap on this bank to avoid abuse. Pirates are allow to run a Gambling House

Much like control on a Bank or Gold Smith, you would have controls on your gambling house/games. Min/Max bets, number of players, tournaments etc.

There needs to be a cheating element involved somehow too. Perhaps a voodoo card for better luck, but if you fail you lose XXXXX??? Perhaps, not sure.

[DezNutz]

Ill make a wager that this won't get implemented. 10/1 odds.
Any takers?

It would have to make it to a viable suggestion first.

[Kangaroo]

The assumption there is no "real" money involved is only valid if you don't spend any to play.
The impact would be largely dependant upon the game style, cost, prizes, wager types and limits etc.
But as stated without boundaries, there is nothing to stop 14yo Johnny using mum or dad's card to buy credits because he likes wagering on the skull and once won 50 credits.....

This country is the king of gamblers, we will bet on 2 flies crawling up a wall, but we conciously limit it where practicable to adults (and plenty of them have lost their house in the process).

Not wanting to be alarmist or create a nanny state, I'm a gambler myself at modest levels, just raising a concern.