WAR? Well boys and girls... I think so!

[PhoenixKnight]

General outline is agreed upon for a treaty.
Both parties shall ceasefire during the negotiations.
We are working on the details.

[Dmanwuzhere]

i do not know astras full decision i assume a yes to both but i dont know however i will the second it is taken drop the pop as much as i can and whoever it is gifted to will suffer the same fate as grenada because in the end those were such small losses for me and the others that it will of course be as inconsequential to them as i assume you feel it was for us.

2018-09-20 16:11:26 (Chat reply)

Those were words spoken by me and I meant every word but in light of El draques support of tk having the port (which I still disagree with as astra has say as well) I will let those who feel they have a right to the port work it out.

I withdraw my vendetta and will from this point on defend those ports that are within my nations boundaries.

If attacked or otherwise set upon I will defend or attack as needed.
But my vendetta is unfair since both parties with what I consider to be the ones with interest in the port are at odds in their decision making process.

[DezNutz]

Spoiler: show

Joke of the day

Since St Kitts Nevis gave Kiribati the port of Baramas after our rise, we feel that the port of Baramas defaults back to our ownership when Kiribati gave it up.

On a serious note:

I see where IOM is coming from,but one thing I don’t get is if IOM is buying then why did UK take it first?

On TK point of view, yes ports are not really owned but controlled. TK can choose to go to war over port ownership. IOM can choose to defend their new acquisition. Neither of them are wrong on the matter.

Who is entitled to control the port? The simple answer is, whoever can keep it. Considering the age of SHM and BS in the game and their resources, i think they can outlast the port war easily. Knowing VUDU, they will continue to hassle TK and Ravenlock after the loss for a long time.

Proposal: if TK and IOM/VUDU can agree on a monetary value to go peacefully and relinquish Baramas to IOM, that would be optimal.

Alternative: Vane comes in last minute for a new nation and control the port !

This!

^best idea

Could you kiss his ass more?

[Jack Teach]

Nah I just like the idea of pirates having a port. Or of a new nation.

[DezNutz]

What I don't get is that something interesting comes along within actual game play and the game lords have to come in and institute cease fires and calms to the potential storm. Why?

[Meliva]

What I don't get is that something interesting comes along within actual game play and the game lords have to come in and institute cease fires and calms to the potential storm. Why?

I will admit that when the big giants come in to force peace it does take out some action. I think some times the best thing to do is let 2 people(or 2 groups) duke it out til they work it out themselves. Makes the game more interesting and might even let those 2 groups gain some experience in both war and negotiating.

[LuckyDube]

What I don't get is that something interesting comes along within actual game play and the game lords have to come in and institute cease fires and calms to the potential storm. Why?

'Gold coin Lost'

[sXs]

What I don't get is that something interesting comes along within actual game play and the game lords have to come in and institute cease fires and calms to the potential storm. Why?

'Gold coin Lost'

That is all this is. Dumb as F***. TK comes in claiming they are simply trying to recoup an investment they made nearly 2 years into a nation that hasn't existed for a year and a half. Now instead of recouping their investment, if there really was any, they have lost 10 times that much in 1 day.

IoM, who had negotiated a peaceful merger, regardless of butthurt by one particular player who was offered help and support to rebuild by both IoM and UK, has lost their initial influence into the port and now are being threatened in 2 other ports.

I guess everyone in Avonmora has just got too much gold and are bored. Sad thing is there is no skill involved in any of this. It comes down to who is willing to lose the most gold for a port that will probably get nuked down to 0 population and be worthless no matter which side ends up with it.

[The Lamb]

I would like to say this. My two cents are this.
I would not mind if Kiri got Baramas Back if TK so desired, but it would have to be after TK was able to recoup their losses. I wouldn't mind rejuvenating Kiri if if anyone saw fit, it was a great trading nation after all.

[sXs]

I would like to say this. My two cents are this.
I would not mind if Kiri got Baramas Back if TK so desired, but it would have to be after TK was able to recoup their losses. I wouldn't mind rejuvenating Kiri if if anyone saw fit, it was a great trading nation after all.

What losses? Still have not said or shown what "losses: or "investments" there were claiming they were trying to recoup.

At this point it isn't about gold, losses, or investments. It is all ego. Would be nice if people just admit it instead of making false claims.