Enemy of the Crown - Big Tea of Tokelau

[Lefty]

That is all I will say as I am no spokesman for anyone but myself.

To douchebagman I say...
Stop acting all high and mighty. Please follow your own advice from above. No one really cares about your opinion.
To the reat of VUDU I say....
Get over it. We plundered one of your members as a nation. If you think about it, pretty impressive. We had plenty of reasons for doing so. Not, just because we could.

No a group of people who happen to fly the same flag attacked a guildmate.

None of the gold plundered went into the nation coffers. None of the ship taken became the property of the nation. This is not in anyway associated with the nation of Tokelau. This was a vendetta and opportunity.

Do us all a favor and at least admit to that. Otherwise your words are hollow.

I admit your pursuit of this topic is childish .
If my words are hollow, it is only to see the truth with which I speak.
This is over, we have done what we have done.
If you wish to cry, do so in private please.
As I have no wish to see more of Bangers mascara running.

[sXs]

No one is crying at all.

The fact is the "peaceful banker" has just proven to be anything but that.

SHM has stated publicly he endorsed this as a nation action. Curious though the nation does not benefit in anyway. No ports gained, no tax income has increased, no gold in the nation coffers. In fact the only way Tokelau as a nation benefits is to change it's hostility laws and allow BigTea to remain a citizen and gain the advantage of his level 20 bank. In fact I am curious about something else. If Tokelau is a peaceful nation, why would there be a need for hostility laws in the first place......

Simply state what this action was and be honest about it. Do not hide under the guise of the"wronged nation" because none of your actions do anything to right that very wrong.

[Banger]

Tom Lowe for Cuck of the Year

[Lefty]

Tom Lowe for Cuck of the Year

It is definitely biggger than yours.

[Lefty]

No one is crying at all.

The fact is the "peaceful banker" has just proven to be anything but that.

SHM has stated publicly he endorsed this as a nation action. Curious though the nation does not benefit in anyway. No ports gained, no tax income has increased, no gold in the nation coffers. In fact the only way Tokelau as a nation benefits is to change it's hostility laws and allow BigTea to remain a citizen and gain the advantage of his level 20 bank. In fact I am curious about something else. If Tokelau is a peaceful nation, why would there be a need for hostility laws in the first place......

Simply state what this action was and be honest about it. Do not hide under the guise of the"wronged nation" because none of your actions do anything to right that very wrong.

Waaaaaa. Why would peaceful 'sniff'' banker 'sniff' (wipes nose) do that? waaaaaa

[sXs]

No one is crying at all.

The fact is the "peaceful banker" has just proven to be anything but that.

SHM has stated publicly he endorsed this as a nation action. Curious though the nation does not benefit in anyway. No ports gained, no tax income has increased, no gold in the nation coffers. In fact the only way Tokelau as a nation benefits is to change it's hostility laws and allow BigTea to remain a citizen and gain the advantage of his level 20 bank. In fact I am curious about something else. If Tokelau is a peaceful nation, why would there be a need for hostility laws in the first place......

Simply state what this action was and be honest about it. Do not hide under the guise of the"wronged nation" because none of your actions do anything to right that very wrong.

Waaaaaa. Why would peaceful 'sniff'' banker 'sniff' (wipes nose) do that? waaaaaa

Again deflect from the issue.

Answer the simple question. How can it be a nation action when the nation gains nothing? Gold, ships .... everything goes to only the citizens that decide to join in. Nation coffers have gained nothing.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Lol, Tom, you did a piss poor job of defleeting him despite the amount of participants.
And as I gave no advice I can only laugh at the voices you are responding to while typing in this thread.
But if a lie is preferred over the truth I am ok with that, I just like pointing out the lies
and better knowing the character of those I was discussing.
I did not mention you for a reason.... you were irrelevant.

P.S. If I were a douche bag that were empty, I could be thrown away happy, just knowing you were finally clean!

[Lefty]

No one is crying at all.

The fact is the "peaceful banker" has just proven to be anything but that.

SHM has stated publicly he endorsed this as a nation action. Curious though the nation does not benefit in anyway. No ports gained, no tax income has increased, no gold in the nation coffers. In fact the only way Tokelau as a nation benefits is to change it's hostility laws and allow BigTea to remain a citizen and gain the advantage of his level 20 bank. In fact I am curious about something else. If Tokelau is a peaceful nation, why would there be a need for hostility laws in the first place......

Simply state what this action was and be honest about it. Do not hide under the guise of the"wronged nation" because none of your actions do anything to right that very wrong.

Waaaaaa. Why would peaceful 'sniff'' banker 'sniff' (wipes nose) do that? waaaaaa

Again deflect from the issue.

Answer the simple question. How can it be a nation action when the nation gains nothing? Gold, ships .... everything goes to only the citizens that decide to join in. Nation coffers have gained nothing.

Again crying about this is childish
Grow up. People have different measures of success than you do. Your arrogant pushing of his topic is sad.

[DezNutz]

No a group of people who happen to fly the same flag attacked a guildmate.

None of the gold plundered went into the nation coffers. None of the ship taken became the property of the nation. This is not in anyway associated with the nation of Tokelau. This was a vendetta and opportunity.

Do us all a favor and at least admit to that. Otherwise your words are hollow.

I disagree.

A nation coming together to take action is no different than a guild taking action. The only difference in these types of actions is that the game offers specific support mechanisms to guilds that are not available to nations. The actions are of the individual. The losses are of the individual. The gains are of the individual. Guild actions and Nations actions are of the individual, regardless of the benefits that may come as a result.

The argument that a nation of players cannot work together in effort to recoup losses to the nation is poor at best. You are also forgetting that SHM did state that they worked to keep Bigtea from going pirate on the chance he would come back and as a means to protect an investment. Last I checked, a "nation" doesn't cast voodoo. Individuals do. There is more then enough justification for the individuals of a nation to work to recoup any individual loss made in effort to protect the investment, as well as the investment itself made by the nation.

Another point. Just because a mechanism doesn't currently exist for a nation to recoup investments, doesn't mean that strings weren't attached to the investment.

[Lefty]

Lol, Tom, you did a piss poor job of defleeting him despite the amount of participants.
And as I gave no advice I can only laugh at the voices you are responding to while typing in this thread.
But if a lie is preferred over the truth I am ok with that, I just like pointing out the lies
and better knowing the character of those I was discussing.
I did not mention you for a reason.... you were irrelevant.

P.S. If I were a douche bag that were empty, I could be thrown away happy, just knowing you were finally clean!

Stop with the 'this is about honesty'. Your guild is far from honest.And your lowering of your standards does not affect my standards.