Fantasy Draft IV Voting Poll

[Sebena]

Stats can be miss leading.

At one point I had 2,400 ships,
A week ago i had abot 1,400
Now I have about 970, i currently have more captains than ships.

Likewise during the draft Phoenix had
Well over 1000 ships but last I checked was no longer on the list.

Win ratio is easy for a player that has few ships or a few carefully chosen battles, it can be manipulated if a player casts hideout a lot. When a player has thousands of battles undertaken, and still maintains a high count this number holds a little move value in my opinion.

Total battles, could be 70% loses so i dont put a lot of weight in that unless compared to Total Wins.

Other stats like ships plundered and total wins skirmish win may be reliable stats to follow if tgats where you weight a players value.

You can look at influence, bank rank, ect.
Players may store money as bar or bury it in the ground.
Some players may have a lot of interest in nations while others may not.

All stats and information are useful, especially when all available stats are viewed as a collection of information.
Except perhaps fame. I put no value on that except for who i can cast on, or more importantly who can cast on me, undercover.


I prefer to weight players value on personal experiences i have had with them, or the actions I have seen them take since I started playing.

All good and valid points I have same frame of thoughts reason for my posts of stats are words where Jack says show me stats....

[Dmanwuzhere]

The stats listed are for those who actively seek out to be on those lists or are a result of playing in a manner consistent with the stats. By quoting 3 as an argument for being the reason Dez should receive your vote downplays the majority of his team that are not on the list.

[ChaIbaud]

- Deznutz- noob might know the name but not much else as he is now a pirate and not a USA noble
- Captain DaVinci- (1) big boy everyone knows who has chosen to stay in the game
- Tom Lowe- (1.5) not as active as he used to be, if they read the history or cross his path then they will know who he is
- Feniks- (2) king of a larger nation in Avonmora as well as relatively frequent forum poster
- Slindur (2.25) not a well known player but those who do know of him respect him
- Bigtea- (2.5) used to be huge, has a quite large fleet already but a noob won't know his name, at least not yet..
- Dark Wolfie- (3) those who look into the past or forums will know wolfie but not much going on involving you at the moment
- PsycoDad- (3.25) is he even around? king of an old powerhouse nation
- Lilone (3.5) who this
- xXTalorXx (4) engulfed in some conflict, forum readers will know her name as well as those who have received some voodoo
- Bomont (0) ??

- Kangaroo (1) king of a nation that has endured the test of time and then some, well-respected
- Sir Henry Morgan (2) everyone knows the name, those who choose to delve into the game know not to mess with this titan
- Danik (3) international donkey salesman, destroyer of America, along with TLT, and bonaire's king
- Dman (4) has accomplished a lot, known on the forums as being a bit trolly but in game for being one to stay away from
- The Love Tiger (4.5) TLT has since died down on activity, at least well-known to me, but he has recently formed a guild and remains an influencer
- Meliva (5) guildmaster of the largest guild, well-protected merchant and professional negotiator
- Banger (6) banger has done a lot in his time, including numerous plunderings that have earned him a name in avonmoran history
- Captain Noir
- Astragek (6.5) has a decently sized trading fleet, though not all will know him unless they understand port gossip
- Dozer White Beard (7) big time merchant, old salty sea dog that has lasted a while, don't mess with him or the voices will enter your head too
- Sir Jack Roberts (7.5) a countryman that has a taste for privateering, most know him from the forum roleplays

edit: the captains also make a world of difference, which is why Roo gets my vote

[DezNutz]

Stats can be miss leading.

At one point I had 2,400 ships,
A week ago i had abot 1,400
Now I have about 970, i currently have more captains than ships.

Likewise during the draft Phoenix had
Well over 1000 ships but last I checked was no longer on the list.

Win ratio is easy for a player that has few ships or a few carefully chosen battles, it can be manipulated if a player casts hideout a lot. When a player has thousands of battles undertaken, and still maintains a high count this number holds a little move value in my opinion.

Total battles, could be 70% loses so i dont put a lot of weight in that unless compared to Total Wins.

Other stats like ships plundered and total wins skirmish win may be reliable stats to follow if tgats where you weight a players value.

You can look at influence, bank rank, ect.
Players may store money as bar or bury it in the ground.
Some players may have a lot of interest in nations while others may not.

All stats and information are useful, especially when all available stats are viewed as a collection of information.
Except perhaps fame. I put no value on that except for who i can cast on, or more importantly who can cast on me, undercover.


I prefer to weight players value on personal experiences i have had with them, or the actions I have seen them take since I started playing.

True, certain stats, such as ship counts fluctuate. However, total battles, battles won (not percentage, but actual wins), total skirmishes, skirmishes won, are not statistics that fluctuate up and down. These are stats that can only go in one direction. Those leading in those fields are leading as they have the most. The only way they won't have the most is when someone else surpasses their counts.

[ChaIbaud]

If you asked a newbie which team was more stacked between Dez's and Roo's teams, I believe they would say Roo's team. You have 3, maybe 4, actively hegemonic players on your team, Dez, whereas Roo has 6 going onto 7 at least.

Last I checked, the draft wasn't about who has the most sociable players.

If the players are hegemonic, they don't have to speak much on the forums, such as SHM, to be known by players. This isn't sociability, it's familiarity..

[Shadowood]

Recap my team Chal.

[Shadowood]

Actually do all 5

[William one eye]

Likewise, I find the poll useless in its current form.

There is no way to tell why votes are cast for the teams.

A possible Reasons for vote choice

1 though it was the best team
2 it was the team i was on
3 its my friends team
4 i dont like player on team x so i voted for team y
5 i dont like team y so i voted for team z
6someone paid me
7 ive been inactive but got an email / phone call
From an old Pg friend, saying need a favor, log in and vote for me
8 I suppose fraudulent voting could also occur.



I would love to see an open ballot poll.
Would be interesting to see who was voting as well as
Why they voted the way they did if they were willing to share that information.

Happy to see some player volunnteering this information reguardless.

[DezNutz]

If you asked a newbie which team was more stacked between Dez's and Roo's teams, I believe they would say Roo's team. You have 3, maybe 4, actively hegemonic players on your team, Dez, whereas Roo has 6 going onto 7 at least.

Last I checked, the draft wasn't about who has the most sociable players.

If the players are hegemonic, they don't have to speak much on the forums, such as SHM, to be known by players. This isn't sociability, it's familiarity..

You clearly don't know what hegemonic means.

hegemonic - adj. - ruling or dominant in a political or social context.

You can't be dominant in the political or social context without being socially active. Try again chal.

Case in Point. In American Politics, JFK and Ronald Reagan are names of familiarity. However neither are hegemonic, because they are not active socially or politically as they are dead.

[Banger]

I voted for team Roo, because reasons. Enjoying the lead before all the dup accounts shift the win the way I see it going.