Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:31 pm

I simply gave him the chance to earn your admiration and me a breather. You have always said I was pro which is what got you blocked as I got tired of your accusations.
And once I disallowed your rants to hold meaning I unblocked you.
Lol anyone in helm that says we are the same would be misrepresenting the truth as they know it as we had chat boxes in which we discussed things and cast against our enemies at the same time.
You wouldnt know because you were not there at the time.
But you can draw from personal experience when we attacked you to disable you together as can quite a few who we fought.
If I am not casting with him we are not working together and if we are then you will know I am involved and will not care your response.
But it has been awhile. :D

As for milking and pushing I highly doubt I need the assistance or the funding. :D
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby DezNutz » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:46 pm

Charles Vane wrote:The fundamental basis of a proxy is not against the rules nor should it be. It is also not the true intention on this thread or debate.

The problem, is not playing your account to the fullest and being here only to act on behalf of another player/account.

Merc do it for payment and are in fact playing their accounts to the benefit of their accounts. The cases we discuss are quite the opposite and a clear milking/pushing violation is happening.

We are not allowed to give retirement gifts when leaving as that falls under pushing. This is exactly that, without assets actually changing hands.


Spot on. Just want to touch further on a point. Sporadic playing is also not against the rules, just like the fundamental basis of a proxy. The issue comes when game play is done solely at the benefit of others.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby DezNutz » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:56 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:As for milking and pushing I highly doubt I need the assistance or the funding. :D


Pushing doesn't require the benefiting player(s) to be part of the scheme.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:11 pm

PhoenixKnight wrote:It seems there is a general consensus that Xprox attacks are not welcomed since he is a witch doctor and his attacks always seem to be followed by someone else’s. In some cases it is Taylor, or a VUDU member.

Not wanting to point a finger but there seems to be a recurring pattern


And when I found myself disliking something coming from your guild who attacked you and failing to clear all the cc attacked bigger members of your guild?
Pro or me?
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby DezNutz » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:19 pm

Dmanwuzhere wrote:
And when I found myself disliking something coming from your guild who attacked you and failing to clear all the cc attacked bigger members of your guild?
Pro or me?
Just want to make sure my claims are mine and yours are yours. :beer


Can you rewrite that in English?
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Redish » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:20 pm

What would be the purpose of using a proxy if you retaliated with voodoo against all those that attacked you in any case? Doesn't seem like there would be any reason to use one unless you could argue that your retaliation is now spread among three attackers rather than a focused one on the original caster.

I agree though, some of these 'pirates' are too crap scared of large established players to do the dirty themselves so they get someone else to do their casting. Spineless.
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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:24 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Dmanwuzhere wrote:
And when I found myself disliking something coming from your guild who attacked you and failing to clear all the cc attacked bigger members of your guild?
Pro or me?
Just want to make sure my claims are mine and yours are yours. :beer


Can you rewrite that in English?



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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Shadowood » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:27 pm

Broom wrote:I agree though, some of these 'pirates' are too crap scared of large established players to do the dirty themselves so they get someone else to do their casting. Spineless.


This is an interesting comment. I am curious who you think is scared of who? Who do you consider a "large established player"?

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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby OG Deadking » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:29 pm

Broom wrote:What would be the purpose of using a proxy if you retaliated with voodoo against all those that attacked you in any case? Doesn't seem like there would be any reason to use one unless you could argue that your retaliation is now spread among three attackers rather than a focused one on the original caster.

I agree though, some of these 'pirates' are too crap scared of large established players to do the dirty themselves so they get someone else to do their casting. Spineless.


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Re: Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

Postby Black sparrow » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:35 pm

PhoenixKnight wrote:With the protection on the last ship gone, I think one way to deal with this kind of play is either to ban an account with such activity or impose a daily penalty on accounts that have no ships. Perhaps something like lose 1% daily of whatever assets you have. In case of voodoo chest, you lose 1% of your cards daily


I disagree with the gameplay solution. There needs to be moderation.
The problem must be followed on the aggressors side, not the victims side.

If I set up a friend to send me gc every day, this is milking and it is prohibited.
If I set up a friend to do voodoo casting for me, this is also milking and must be punished.
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