Using a proxy to cast voodoo? Action to condemn

[Vane]

For the record, I responded with voodoo to those who got the gains. All three of them. So its not a witch doctor problem. It's something that falls into the milking rule as the account is not playing to its full benefit and in fact it is playing for the benefit of others.

Exactly, I see it as a milking/pushing violation.

[PhoenixKnight]

Excellent point

[Jack Teach]

Everything being said here is true, xprox is definitely a proxy. Yesterday I attacked Taylor, a couple hours later I was cast on by pro. I also woke that day with all my trade fleets skirmished

[Grimrock Litless]

I am pretty sure whenever a post about finding a way to fix how unfair witch doctor is, is just "Voodoo is op, nurf it."

And that sums it up p much.

[Dmanwuzhere]

I did have a heads up in the case of BS it did not say BS would be lit it said that a member of Ravenlocke specifically Lachlan would be lit. As for Vanes I did not receive a heads up.
I have no problem casting on anyone especially if I have a reason or in need of hits.
I generally do not light up a lot at one time as I like targets in one port better than several and higher dividends as well.
But I wont answer for Pro as he is grown and can do that himself.
As for witchdoctors or proxy if you are against it then no one should be hired to handle your business and the bounty board should not exist.
I dont care one way or the other and have often got in trouble for responding incorrectly on who I thought was behind casting on me but
I dont mind being wrong as long as I am right a couple of times.
I am going to play and adjust as I have my entire journey thus far.

Almost a year ago I was a struggling newb trader my evolution has been a process that adjusts and it will continue as that is how these games go.

[PhoenixKnight]

With the protection on the last ship gone, I think one way to deal with this kind of play is either to ban an account with such activity or impose a daily penalty on accounts that have no ships. Perhaps something like lose 1% daily of whatever assets you have. In case of voodoo chest, you lose 1% of your cards daily

[Vane]

That is an easy fix though Phoenix. What's to stop them from building and sailing one cutter, this has been the same issue to other similar fixes. We also can't debate this forever and watch it fade like before. These problems need an immediate fix in the in term and a more permanent fix can be discussed and added later.

These types of situations need to be monitored by admins or moderators of sorts and dealt with on a per case basis with punishment being an account ban with all assets lost.

Toxic play should be dealt with swiftly and harshly.

[Admiral Nelson]

I reported Pro and Dman a few months ago; when Dman started to cast voodoo on me. I was online at the time and drained him of turns.

Then within a min of Dman being drained of turns; xProx appears and starts casting on me.

Not saying Multis but again, a proxy possibility.

However the 'Proxy' possibility could also be used against Mercenaries, no? As they are filtering out the true source with personal benefits from it? (I am not saying this in a way that is bad, but merely a question)

Lets take Merc for an example, they get paid to carry out a job. Is that not classed as a proxy?

[Dmanwuzhere]

I reported Pro and Dman a few months ago; when Dman started to cast voodoo on me. I was online at the time and drained him of turns.

Then within a min of Dman being drained of turns; xProx appears and starts casting on me.

Not saying Multis but again, a proxy possibility.

That day I claim as you at the time were being a proxy with no assets to protect and casting for Helm. But I did not send a report I dealt with it.But in all fairness you and Pro have had your differences and due to his work he can not be on as much as you but at that time he was still more active than now and had his own bone to pick with you at the time.

[Vane]

The fundamental basis of a proxy is not against the rules nor should it be. It is also not the true intention on this thread or debate.

The problem, is not playing your account to the fullest and being here only to act on behalf of another player/account.

Merc do it for payment and are in fact playing their accounts to the benefit of their accounts. The cases we discuss are quite the opposite and a clear milking/pushing violation is happening.

We are not allowed to give retirement gifts when leaving as that falls under pushing. This is exactly that, without assets actually changing hands.