Generosity

[Sebena]

If we are to remove genos then I say we remove effect of FOJ casted few seconds before top of the hour

[D00T]

Not to insult you Banger but I kinda agree with PHX, the whole argument feels like you trying to make things easier for yourself.

[Banger]

I see your point - not sure I agree with it though. I'm still learning all this stuff - especially voodoo. So thanks for the lesson

From my side - it's sure more expensive to get rid of those curses (purify, serenity) than it is to cast them on someone (HN, FfJ, taxation). But maybe I'm showing how little I know - might be better ways to deal with it.

If you were able to remove them all with purify then it's fairly close to even. With current market prices it might be slightly more expensive to clear them all with purifies. The main difference is it costs 8 turns to cast HNs and FfJs so to cast 3 ffjs and 2 HNs is 40 turns which is substantial. Even with double turns on they is over 3 hours worth of turns.

[Banger]

Not to insult you Banger but I kinda agree with PHX, the whole argument feels like you trying to make things easier for yourself.

It's purely about balance. You should have to protect your own stuff, it shouldnt be so easy for a cape wearing super guildee to save your bacon in one click.

[Meliva]

I would like to see what other players who play aggressively think, but to me, I think its fine as is, but I wouldn't object to reducing the pierce effect to 75% or 50%.

[Meliva]

Not to insult you Banger but I kinda agree with PHX, the whole argument feels like you trying to make things easier for yourself.

It's purely about balance. You should have to protect your own stuff, it shouldnt be so easy for a cape wearing super guildee to save your bacon in one click.

If we all should have to protect our own stuff why have guilds at all. Since the main purpose of a guild is to form a group who looks out for eachother. Likewise, a guild can also work together to raid someone. if we remove genos, why not remove self sacs? Should plunder with your own turns not turns a guildee gives you.

You see your logic is flawed. But i would still like to see what other aggressive players have to say about it.

[Vane]

I personally see no issue with it. I wouldnt want ship stealing to be easy, whether i am actively hunting or not.

Plus if i am after a fleet, im taking it with ambushes, levi's etc and in less then 3 minutes so its no problem. Raids with hn and foj should be for coin not ships so genos only add to the winnings.

[Banger]

Not to insult you Banger but I kinda agree with PHX, the whole argument feels like you trying to make things easier for yourself.

It's purely about balance. You should have to protect your own stuff, it shouldnt be so easy for a cape wearing super guildee to save your bacon in one click.

If we all should have to protect our own stuff why have guilds at all. Since the main purpose of a guild is to form a group who looks out for eachother. Likewise, a guild can also work together to raid someone. if we remove genos, why not remove self sacs? Should plunder with your own turns not turns a guildee gives you.

You see your logic is flawed. But i would still like to see what other aggressive players have to say about it.

You still have buried treasure you can cast all the little long day.

[Dmanwuzhere]

I hate to say the opposite of my guildmate but I am fine with it but do share the bitter sting of its rejection when it inconveniences me.
On a side note it has saved my bacon and I was glad for it then.

[Meliva]

And you like Vane said, have ambushes, levis, booty masters, and various other voodoo that can help steal ships. If your trying to just get ships with FoJ and HoN and that player is in a guild you should expect to have a very hard time pulling it off.