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[Jack Teach]

Vikings ships were specifically made to be able to sail in shallow waters, and rivers, and to land safely in places that most ships would be unable to land on without becoming beached. Vikings would land in an unexpected area, rush in, kill, loot then rush out before a proper defense could be rallied. They also believed the worst death would be being killed while running, so they would never surrender of flee from a fight even if they were losing. Pirates on the other hand, would have no problem with running away from a fight if they were scared of didn't believe they could win. So once more, in a fight between the 2, if its on land the Viking would most likely win. The only way pirates would win is if its out at sea in an area that isn't in shallow waters.

Sloop were designed for the same thing. Again, depends on the pirate, Edward teach never ran.

Yes some pirates may have been like that and would never run. But it was a belief in viking religion that one would die at a certain time no matter what, so virtually EVERY viking would fight to the death and never retreat. While i suspect only a very few number of pirates were the same way. In fact didnt Teach's own crew surrender after he died in his final battle? While if the leader of a viking raid died the rest would have fought on until they died with him or won.

Consider this: you are the captain of a Viking ship, and you see a strange ship come up to yours, about 50 feet away, all of a sudden a burst of fire comes from the cannons, your probably think it's some sort of supernatural thing.

[D00T]

Like I said before, either they get angrier that they are getting attacked by magic, or they are cowering, depends on their personality.

[Jack Teach]

Like I said before, either they get angrier that they are getting attacked by magic, or they are cowering, depends on their personality.

Same for pirates.

[D00T]

So we are down to a personality problem.

[Meliva]

Most Vikings upon getting attacked by what they believe is a supernatural thing wouldn't run-they would attack with full force. Like I said before their beliefs would prevent cowardice. Their belief was that upon being born the time you are destined to die is determined by beings I think they called Norns. And that the time you are given can not be changed no matter what. For example if your time was to die at age 23, you would die at 23 no matter what-no sooner no later. And because of this they believed all that mattered was to live a good life. They would attack and not run, for they believed if they were destined to die they would die whether they ran or fought-so might as well go out fighting. If they were destined to live then why run from a victory? Pirates were NOT the same. Most pirates would gladly run, or surrender if they thought they would die otherwise.

[Jack Teach]

Most Vikings upon getting attacked by what they believe is a supernatural thing wouldn't run-they would attack with full force. Like I said before their beliefs would prevent cowardice. Their belief was that upon being born the time you are destined to die is determined by beings I think they called Norns. And that the time you are given can not be changed no matter what. For example if your time was to die at age 23, you would die at 23 no matter what-no sooner no later. And because of this they believed all that mattered was to live a good life. They would attack and not run, for they believed if they were destined to die they would die whether they ran or fought-so might as well go out fighting. If they were destined to live then why run from a victory? Pirates were NOT the same. Most pirates would gladly run, or surrender if they thought they would die otherwise.

A ha! What if, hypothetically, the Vikings thought the pirates were gods, do perhaps they'd surrender out of piety?

[Meliva]

Most Vikings upon getting attacked by what they believe is a supernatural thing wouldn't run-they would attack with full force. Like I said before their beliefs would prevent cowardice. Their belief was that upon being born the time you are destined to die is determined by beings I think they called Norns. And that the time you are given can not be changed no matter what. For example if your time was to die at age 23, you would die at 23 no matter what-no sooner no later. And because of this they believed all that mattered was to live a good life. They would attack and not run, for they believed if they were destined to die they would die whether they ran or fought-so might as well go out fighting. If they were destined to live then why run from a victory? Pirates were NOT the same. Most pirates would gladly run, or surrender if they thought they would die otherwise.

A ha! What if, hypothetically, the Vikings thought the pirates were gods, do perhaps they'd surrender out of piety?

Mate, if their gods were trying to kill them they would probably think it was a test, and would therefore fight full force feeling honored to die to their gods in honorable combat.

[Jack Teach]

Most Vikings upon getting attacked by what they believe is a supernatural thing wouldn't run-they would attack with full force. Like I said before their beliefs would prevent cowardice. Their belief was that upon being born the time you are destined to die is determined by beings I think they called Norns. And that the time you are given can not be changed no matter what. For example if your time was to die at age 23, you would die at 23 no matter what-no sooner no later. And because of this they believed all that mattered was to live a good life. They would attack and not run, for they believed if they were destined to die they would die whether they ran or fought-so might as well go out fighting. If they were destined to live then why run from a victory? Pirates were NOT the same. Most pirates would gladly run, or surrender if they thought they would die otherwise.

A ha! What if, hypothetically, the Vikings thought the pirates were gods, do perhaps they'd surrender out of piety?

Mate, if their gods were trying to kill them they would probably think it was a test, and would therefore fight full force feeling honored to die to their gods in honorable combat.

But what if, they thought they weren't coming to kill them, but what if they thought something else? And also I just read something that says that Vikings actually did surrender sometimes.

[Meliva]

Mate, Vikings might not have been the smartest group, but even they would be able to realize their ship getting hit be a cannon ball and being shot at by guns would be a pretty obvious indication that they are being attacked and the attackers are trying to kill them. Now MAYBE if after firing a single cannon ball not aimed at their ships, and then PRETENDING to be gods the pirates MIGHT fool them, but that is HIGHLY unlikely. Hell even then a Viking might challenge one of the pirates to a duel wishing to see how great these gods are-and odds are the pirate would lose. then the pirates now have a bunch of angry Vikings in close proximity.

[Jack Teach]

Mate, Vikings might not have been the smartest group, but even they would be able to realize their ship getting hit be a cannon ball and being shot at by guns would be a pretty obvious indication that they are being attacked and the attackers are trying to kill them. Now MAYBE if after firing a single cannon ball not aimed at their ships, and then PRETENDING to be gods the pirates MIGHT fool them, but that is HIGHLY unlikely. Hell even then a Viking might challenge one of the pirates to a duel wishing to see how great these gods are-and odds are the pirate would lose. then the pirates now have a bunch of angry Vikings in close proximity.

Vikings actually did surrender sometimes, I think your using exaggerated fiction rather than fact.