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[D00T]

I think it depends on the skill of said Vikings and pirates, some pirates were far more skilled than others.

But then the Vikings could win with armor and raw strength

Again, skill is required here. Vikings were not really more strong than the average warrior at the time, you're acting like all of the Vikings were supermen. They were not indestructible as you claim.

I never said they were indestructible, but armor makes a huge difference in battles, and Vikings have to go through harsher tasks, so that may given them more time to train, may.

[Jack Teach]

Vikings could also lure pirates to very shallow water, which gives the Vikings the advantage of mobility

You ever hear of sloops mate? Also cannons can hit things from a long way away, Viking ships were actually LESS manuaverable then a pirate sloop.

[D00T]

Vikings could also lure pirates to very shallow water, which gives the Vikings the advantage of mobility

You ever hear of sloops mate? Also cannons can hit things from a long way away, Viking ships were actually LESS manuaverable then a pirate sloop.

Yes but Viking vessels are able to maneuver on shallower water, I think, lemme look it up.

[Meliva]

none of us have claimed them to be indestructible. But its safe to assume most Vikings would be better melee fighters then most pirates. A pirate would typically use cannons, and pistols first in a battle, then once out of shots would resort to sword fighting. A Viking would first almost always use melee, with the exception to perhaps arrows. So the average Viking would have more experience fighting up close with melee weapons then pirates.

[Jack Teach]

Vikings could also lure pirates to very shallow water, which gives the Vikings the advantage of mobility

You ever hear of sloops mate? Also cannons can hit things from a long way away, Viking ships were actually LESS manuaverable then a pirate sloop.

Yes but Viking vessels are able to maneuver on shallower water, I think, lemme look it up.

I doubt it. Sloops could go in the shallowest places around.

[Jack Teach]

same goes with Vikings. But from what I recall they would often light themselves on fire just before raiding, though that may be myth. But if it is true I imagine most pirates would be quite frightened and shocked thinking demons were attacking them. Which would impact their aim, maybe cause some to flee. And pistols at the time were not multi shot, most pirates would have to carry multiple pistols. And I imagine since Vikings only fought with melee weapons the average Viking would be a better melee fighter then the average pirate who would normally fight with cannons first, then pistols then swords. So at the end of the day I would say Vikings would have the edge on a land battle, pirates the edge at sea.

That's a myth.

[D00T]

Ok, I’ll use sloop of war because sloops only tell me about modern day ones

[Jack Teach]

Ok, I’ll use sloop of war because sloops only tell me about modern day ones

Modern day sloops have the same, or sometimes MORE draft as 18th century sloops did.

[D00T]

Well...Viking ships had a beam size of 15 feets, and a sloop has 32

[D00T]

NEVER MIND, WRONG INFO