Avonmora First Peace Summit- Derailed and rejected. Debate

[PhoenixKnight]

So in essence it looks like most nations are not interested in getting together for open forum discussions.

[Xxmontyxx]

Only going to say this - if Palestinians ( the descendants of Jordanians & Egyptians) wanted peace they could have had it a long time ago - instead their "leaders" get rich & the people get ****ed over...the latest chant of '67 borders is a farce because there was no peace before 67 either...

[sXs]

Phoenix, I like the idea, but i think the only way to do something like what you are implying is through game mechanics.

[William one eye]

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[DezNutz]

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Only going to say this - if Palestinians ( the descendants of Jordanians & Egyptians) wanted peace they could have had it a long time ago - instead their "leaders" get rich & the people get ****ed over...the latest chant of '67 borders is a farce because there was no peace before 67 either...

Sounds like a personal problem for the Palestinians.

[Shadowood]

[Xxmontyxx]

Xxmontyxx wrote:
Only going to say this - if Palestinians ( the descendants of Jordanians & Egyptians) wanted peace they could have had it a long time ago - instead their "leaders" get rich & the people get ****ed over...the latest chant of '67 borders is a farce because there was no peace before 67 either...


Sounds like a personal problem for the Palestinians.


Indeed Dez- the only reason those so called leaders arent dead yet is because they are happy with the status quo - they get rich.

[Kangaroo]

Some of what PhoenixKnight is saying has merit. but I doubt it will garner much support. War is a dirty business, and i Avonmora I find it quite boring. There is no skill involved, it relies almost entirely on voodoo and the only real consequence, when all is said and done, is lost gold and wasted voodoo.

I am no martyr by any means. I have used the tools available to me, but I do believe something new needs to be infused into this.

PhoenixKnight is right, to many times a simple personal beef between two players draws in other people, guilds and Nations. I am guilty of it as well. I think the only real answer is a development of new game mechanics. I do not portend to be nearly smart enough to know in what form that should be, but I do know something is needed.

Seamanship, actual battle strategy, port blockades, port defense, and yes , even foot troops of some sort have all been discussed and all have merit. But if all were implemented, what would be lost.

This is a voodoo game now. simply cast a few cards to achieve your goals.

Agreed.
My belief is we need to see the full suite of national/diplomacy tools implimented before there can be any genuine long term mutally beneficial agreements between nations. I say long term because in my very brief 8 months in the game there have been siesmic changes in individual leadership and stance of many powerful nations. One does not seek terms with a rotating face.

[Kangaroo]

So in essence it looks like most nations are not interested in getting together for open forum discussions.

Self interest is a *****.
The common good on a national level is a little counter to the game's mechanics right now.

Hopefully this changes soon.

[Kangaroo]

Apologies, a dog's mother isn't swearing where I live