Port Blockades (Large)

[Shadowood]

Same as for fun and glory Bermuda was attacked and lostbports it was not about profit at all. Same why IoM took psaral not for profit rather for fame and glory. Same why Lodswe is attacked it is not aboutbprofit at all. Stop being hypocrits

Was it not fun taking Caspian and Goroum from USA? "hypocrit"? I question your statement sir.

[Sebena]

Same as for fun and glory Bermuda was attacked and lostbports it was not about profit at all. Same why IoM took psaral not for profit rather for fame and glory. Same why Lodswe is attacked it is not aboutbprofit at all. Stop being hypocrits

Was it not fun taking Caspian and Goroum from USA? "hypocrit"? I question your statement sir.

I am not hypocrite I am opportunist and I said that million times. I saw chance and I took it. I would do it again with any other nation.

[Shadowood]

Same as for fun and glory Bermuda was attacked and lostbports it was not about profit at all. Same why IoM took psaral not for profit rather for fame and glory. Same why Lodswe is attacked it is not aboutbprofit at all. Stop being hypocrits

Was it not fun taking Caspian and Goroum from USA? "hypocrit"? I question your statement sir.

I am not hypocrite I am opportunist and I said that million times. I saw chance and I took it. I would do it again with any other nation.

I too am an Opportunist. To call me otherwise, is not...wise.

Now back to Blockades

[Sebena]

Nope you guys attacked bermuda so it is planned attack not opportunity I would say you were opportunist if bermuda had war with someone else and you just swooped in and took ports. So yes you are hypocrite you say you want fame and glory and yet you attack SSTG and Bermuda for profit.


I would go back on blockade but it is unrealistuc and undesired.

[DezNutz]

I too am an Opportunist. To call me otherwise, is not...wise.

A selective opportunist.

An true opportunist takes advantage of every opportunity that comes there way, regardless of the costs or how it would effect them or others.

[Haron]

Aye - realism is not an argument, I admit, especially here.

CJ has an idea and concept in mind, and I have voiced my thoughts and ideas for what little they are worth. I trust there will be a new blockade feature, and as CJ stated, if a port is worth a blockade, it will be attacked. If it is worth defending, it will be defended, whether the value battled over be wealth, fame, honor or glory will be in the eye of the participant.

Your opinions are always worth a lot - at least to me. I read all your posts in rule discussions with great interest, as I know you always have the game's best interests at heart.

And would a feature where Big Ships acually are lost be a cool idea? I absolutely think it would. Mainly for the top players, but still. The potential reward would have to be huge, though. Like a nation's total influence in a port or something. It would be an entirely different feature, I believe, but it could be a cool one, nevertheless.

"In the misty November night, Tokelau, led by it's feared king Henry Morgan, sailed into the port of Hannes and declared War on Spain. The Spaniards, although taken by surprise, quickly assembled it's mighty armada and set sail to repel the attackers. The battle that follows was unsurpassed in the history of Avonmora both in size, bravery and casualties. Dozens of top level ships were lost by both sides, but Tokelau finally claimed it's prize: The port of Hannes. All spanish influence now belonged to Tokelau, and the citizens cheered as Henry Morgan walked up the main street. Meanwhile, Spain was licking it's wounds - and planning it's revenge..."

[Most Lee Harmless]

This thread has been fun : I threw in the 'why bother defending?' line to stir it up some : fact is, there is no reason to actively defend, it will always be cheaper to do nothing : lose some tax, so what, thats recovered in a few days and, in truth, win or lose, traders will re-route anyway so, its already lost. Lose some influence? Few CD's and thats back again, and cheaper than fighting over it : lose pops? Again, few TI's and thats sorted : and any losses probably will struggle to match what drips away daily anyhow, or as the result of being a ranking missions target, especially for the big nations.

So, why raise the issue : because I want to be the attacker, and I want something to attack : I dont want to show up, ready to rumble and they just shrug and say 'Go for it, call us when you finished.' : I want to risk ships and coin to gain MORE ships and MORE coin : not pretty flags or tokens : I dont want to deny a port its taxes : I want to strip it bare, carry off ships, plunder, cargo and gold. I want a fight and I want a bloody big prize at the end of it : Or, if I fail, I want to fail BIG, not just sail away with a modest repair bill, because thats the price of failure and the PRIZE was worth the risk.

So, back we come to it, what will make defenders WANT to fight? Just doing the minimum they HAVE to do to get past it aint enough : might as well just plunder their ships vanilla style if thats all it means.

[sXs]

Nope you guys attacked bermuda so it is planned attack not opportunity I would say you were opportunist if bermuda had war with someone else and you just swooped in and took ports. So yes you are hypocrite you say you want fame and glory and yet you attack SSTG and Bermuda for profit.


I would go back on blockade but it is unrealistuc and undesired.

This is where your argument completely fails. You are leaving out all of Bermudas actions making it seem as though we did it because we were bored.

Pirates and privateers attack for profit, traders trade for profit, but to think that profit is the only reason someone takes an action is ridiculous.

[Sebena]

Nope you guys attacked bermuda so it is planned attack not opportunity I would say you were opportunist if bermuda had war with someone else and you just swooped in and took ports. So yes you are hypocrite you say you want fame and glory and yet you attack SSTG and Bermuda for profit.


I would go back on blockade but it is unrealistuc and undesired.

This is where your argument completely fails. You are leaving out all of Bermudas actions making it seem as though we did it because we were bored.

Pirates and privateers attack for profit, traders trade for profit, but to think that profit is the only reason someone takes an action is ridiculous.

What actions? Defending themselves from constant attacks by you and Banger. Burn them they are infidels they deserve to die because they defended themselves.

[sXs]

Nope you guys attacked bermuda so it is planned attack not opportunity I would say you were opportunist if bermuda had war with someone else and you just swooped in and took ports. So yes you are hypocrite you say you want fame and glory and yet you attack SSTG and Bermuda for profit.


I would go back on blockade but it is unrealistuc and undesired.

This is where your argument completely fails. You are leaving out all of Bermudas actions making it seem as though we did it because we were bored.

Pirates and privateers attack for profit, traders trade for profit, but to think that profit is the only reason someone takes an action is ridiculous.

What actions? Defending themselves from constant attacks by you and Banger. Burn them they are infidels they deserve to die because they defended themselves.

Defnse is one thing. wiping away hundreds of millions with assassins levis and such is completely another. Almost all my raids to that point were HNs. hit once and done. Personally I spaced all my raids out never the same twice.

Even after they did that to Banger they were contacted diplomatically first. It was basically laughed off. So we responded in the same way they responded to Bangers attacks. We went over the top with it in exactly the same way they went over the top against Banger. Then we stopped. Then they sanctioned a witch doctor to continue to harass us. So we responded again. It could have all been avoided if it had stopped.

Way back when, the initial plunders were for profit. We do that. Almost all were HN attacks. One hit and done. anything after that had nothing to do with profit.