UK official declaration of War

[DezNutz]

Have to love the council above the council. When Malachai was running the us he had one with Dos and Dez in it doesn't seem far-fetched that there be another 3 now.

HAHA. You know absolutely nothing.

There is no council in the council. Post TLT/Danik, a small group of players rebuilt the USA (Malachi, myself, JB-Duke, LordAv, Nicholi). DoS while being part of the council wasn't a rebuilding member. You can call the remaining 3 (Malachi and Nicholi are inactive) an "Inner-Circle" and while our opinions on matters have a lot of weight with the other council memebers, all decisions are made among the entire council.

So please keep putting your foot in your mouth and talking about things you know nothing about.

[DezNutz]

Ok so it wasn't council approved. Semantics.

Whatever excuse you want to make yourself feel better. Your intel is BS. Your allegations that this was done by the USA is BS.

As I have denied the allegations and refuted your "intel", please let me know what proof you have that shows the USA was behind these attacks. The UK as I see it is firing the first volley in this war.

See it as you wish. You haven't refuted anything by the way. All you said was the vote was proposed on 1831, which mind you, was only 7 days ago. While this didn't directly involve the UK is provides clear evidence that some of the high council of the USA wanted to create a situation where a port would become available. What this tells me is that they were more than likely trying to create that situation long before Baramas was even discussed. Hell, Rj Cook prop'd me for millions of influence which I was basically given pennies on the dollar for so this isn't the first time the US has assaulted ports of the UK. We take pride in our nation and we are defending our nation just as anyone would defend theirs. We no longer want to thought of as brash and quick to judgement. We did our homework here and we are drawing our line in the sand to stand up for the United Kingdom and her citizens.

Nope I said a discussion was started 7 days ago. There was no vote. A vote for something must be called. A discussion is just that, a discussion.

[Banger]

Whatever excuse you want to make yourself feel better. Your intel is BS. Your allegations that this was done by the USA is BS.

As I have denied the allegations and refuted your "intel", please let me know what proof you have that shows the USA was behind these attacks. The UK as I see it is firing the first volley in this war.

See it as you wish. You haven't refuted anything by the way. All you said was the vote was proposed on 1831, which mind you, was only 7 days ago. While this didn't directly involve the UK is provides clear evidence that some of the high council of the USA wanted to create a situation where a port would become available. What this tells me is that they were more than likely trying to create that situation long before Baramas was even discussed. Hell, Rj Cook prop'd me for millions of influence which I was basically given pennies on the dollar for so this isn't the first time the US has assaulted ports of the UK. We take pride in our nation and we are defending our nation just as anyone would defend theirs. We no longer want to thought of as brash and quick to judgement. We did our homework here and we are drawing our line in the sand to stand up for the United Kingdom and her citizens.

Nope I said a discussion was started 7 days ago. There was no vote. A vote for something must be called. A discussion is just that, a discussion.

Semantics.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Have to love the council above the council. When Malachai was running the us he had one with Dos and Dez in it doesn't seem far-fetched that there be another 3 now.

HAHA. You know absolutely nothing.

There is no council in the council. Post TLT/Danik, a small group of players rebuilt the USA (Malachi, myself, JB-Duke, LordAv, Nicholi). DoS while being part of the council wasn't a rebuilding member. You can call the remaining 3 (Malachi and Nicholi are inactive) an "Inner-Circle" and while our opinions on matters have a lot of weight with the other council memebers, all decisions are made among the entire council.

So please keep putting your foot in your mouth and talking about things you know nothing about.

Pretty much you can refute what you want. But I refute the placement of my foot and fully intend to reveal it's true placement when I feel like it. Your gas will be forced to exit on your exhale at that point.

[sXs]

Whatever excuse you want to make yourself feel better. Your intel is BS. Your allegations that this was done by the USA is BS.

As I have denied the allegations and refuted your "intel", please let me know what proof you have that shows the USA was behind these attacks. The UK as I see it is firing the first volley in this war.

See it as you wish. You haven't refuted anything by the way. All you said was the vote was proposed on 1831, which mind you, was only 7 days ago. While this didn't directly involve the UK is provides clear evidence that some of the high council of the USA wanted to create a situation where a port would become available. What this tells me is that they were more than likely trying to create that situation long before Baramas was even discussed. Hell, Rj Cook prop'd me for millions of influence which I was basically given pennies on the dollar for so this isn't the first time the US has assaulted ports of the UK. We take pride in our nation and we are defending our nation just as anyone would defend theirs. We no longer want to thought of as brash and quick to judgement. We did our homework here and we are drawing our line in the sand to stand up for the United Kingdom and her citizens.

Nope I said a discussion was started 7 days ago. There was no vote. A vote for something must be called. A discussion is just that, a discussion.

And influence in Baramas was raised.... but no vote

[Most Lee Harmless]

A port-owning nation who's council isnt looking at the current situation and gauging and discussing the possibilities of expanding or consolidating their position aint doing its job. I'd expect the UK to be doing the same, and I'm sure every other port-owning (or aspiring) nation does likewise.

That's a whole other step from doing anything about it, of course : but if the mere thought denotes guilt, well, every nation is guilty.

[Banger]

A port-owning nation who's council isnt looking at the current situation and gauging and discussing the possibilities of expanding or consolidating their position aint doing its job. I'd expect the UK to be doing the same, and I'm sure every other port-owning (or aspiring) nation does likewise.

That's a whole other step from doing anything about it, of course : but if the mere thought denotes guilt, well, every nation is guilty.

They pumped influence into Baramas as a preparatory step...

[Most Lee Harmless]

Not the same as planning to take it : I well recall upping influence in certain ports at certain times : not with any intent of actively stealing the port, but certainly hoping to benefit if a conflict between others caused their influence to drop and left it in our hands by default. On occasion it was to act a block to prevent another nation benefiting from any conflict. Thats port politics.

[sXs]

Not the same as planning to take it : I well recall upping influence in certain ports at certain times : not with any intent of actively stealing the port, but certainly hoping to benefit if a conflict between others caused their influence to drop and left it in our hands by default. On occasion it was to act a block to prevent another nation benefiting from any conflict. Thats port politics.

So 7 days ago they "start a discussion" which was "not the same as a vote" and a few days later they pump influence into that port. Not 1 person, but 2.

That is not a coordinated action in your mind Danik?

[sXs]

Or is this another case of " you can't hold all of USA accountable for the actions of individual citizens."