PhoenixKnight Hiring Captains

[Most Lee Harmless]

Not sure how loosing off a fully automatic firearm protects me anymore than a 'standard' firearm. Not sure how many events involve the number of assailants which would justify that amount or spread of firepower. Of course, if you are ill-trained and thus 99% inaccurate then yep, loose off 60 rounds and hope one hits the right target, rather than some granny sitting on the john three blocks away in the background. And there's the rub : do we really want such powerful and lethal firepower in the hands of the ill-trained? Given that even well-trained servicemen and officers display appallingly bad levels of accuracy when faced with an armed threat we know is intent on doing them harm, surely the debate should center on correct training in the practical use of a firearm, rather than any right to own one that can shred a car in 60 seconds yet fail to stop the assailant standing next to it from harming you or yours cos you just dont know how to keep it pointed where its needed.

[DezNutz]

Why does the need to have a firearm have to only be related to self defense?

[Most Lee Harmless]

It doesnt : you might need one because you wish to accelerate the divorce process and save on lawyers fees : or discourage the neighbors cat from peeing on your lawn. So, yep, you may have many reasons to own a firearm : its use, however, may involve actions which are not constitutionally protected : as the Right to Free Speech does not extend any protected right to shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre, the same logic may dictate that the constitutional right to bear arms can be circumscribed by later laws designed to protect a greater Public Good.
I suppose thats the key to that argument : can the state act to prevent actions which, whilst protecting one right, allow the protected to infringe on others rights to quiet enjoyment of their own life.
It's not such a gross wrong, after all : we accept the right to drive a car does not grant a right to drive ANY vehicle on the public highway unhindered by restrictions of licensing or use. We accept the right to free movement does not grant a greater right to freely wander into our neighbors home or use their yard as a short-cut to the nearest bar.
Deny the ability of the government to enact laws restricting absolute rights comes with a kicker : it also denies them the right to grant protections for those freedoms in the first place. Its called having your cake and eating it.

[DezNutz]

Actually you are fully protected by the First Amendment to shout Fire in a crowded theater. What you aren't protected from is inciting a panic that may result from it. You aren't being arrested for the words which you are free to express (1st Amendment Freedom of Speech), you are being arrested for the panic that you caused as a result of your words. There is a difference. Your speech is protected, the panic you caused is not. So many people confuse the fact that you can be arrested for causing a panic as a restriction to the 1st Amendment. It isn't. Congress can make no law that violates or restricts the rights protected by the Constitution.

[Meliva]

Honestly I don't know why some people want guns with that much firepower. Cant be for hunting, since you would be better off with some sort of rifle for that, and a pistol would be enough for most cases of self defense. I suppose gun collectors would probably want guns like that for their collection, but I honestly do not see any situation where you need a gun with that much firepower.

Also, perhaps this discussion should be brought to an end, or moved to another thread. Since this is seriously derailing what PK started it for-buying bribes.

[DezNutz]

Honestly I don't know why some people want guns with that much firepower. Cant be for hunting, since you would be better off with some sort of rifle for that, and a pistol would be enough for most cases of self defense. I suppose gun collectors would probably want guns like that for their collection, but I honestly do not see any situation where you need a gun with that much firepower.

Also, perhaps this discussion should be brought to an end, or moved to another thread. Since this is seriously derailing what PK started it for-buying bribes.

If the government were the only ones to have weapons, what would prevent them from ruling as tyrants. An armed civilian population is a counter to a government becoming tyrannical. The 2nd Amendment exists for 2 reasons, the formation of a militia and as a check to tyranny.


Buying bribes is the ultimate oxymoron. (using the traditional meaning of the word)

[Stan Rogers]

Next time you are in an airport, just casually mention you have a bomb packed away in your luggage in a calm and joking way and then use the argument that you are just exercising your right to free speech and see how far you get and how far the constitution protects you from prosecution.

Sorry Phoenix, seems your posts always get derailed by controversial topics. PK is buying Captains everyone !

[Meliva]

Next time you are in an airport, just casually mention you have a bomb packed away in your luggage in a calm and joking way and then use the argument that you are just exercising your right to free speech and see how far you get and how far the constitution protects you from prosecution.

Sorry Phoenix, seems your posts always get derailed by controversial topics. PK is buying Captains everyone !

Opened up a new thread for this discussion if anyone wants to continue it. And to get things back on track

I am in the market for excellent Captains with years of experience. Their naval record must be impeccable with minimum 5 years experience of sea voyages . I am paying 2.6 million gold per successful Bribe cast on me. Message me first so that you do not waste your cards and so that you get your payment promptly.

This offer will expire once I get 150 captains

[DezNutz]

Next time you are in an airport, just casually mention you have a bomb packed away in your luggage in a calm and joking way and then use the argument that you are just exercising your right to free speech and see how far you get and how far the constitution protects you from prosecution.

Sorry Phoenix, seems your posts always get derailed by controversial topics. PK is buying Captains everyone !

Again, the words are not what you would be arrested for, thus not a restriction of free speech. Inciting a riot or a panic is illegal. You like others fail to understand that the arresting charge would be inciting a panic. It doesn't matter what is said, whether it be a bomb on an airplane or saying fire in a crowded theater, the issue is inciting a panic, not the actual words. Case and Point. Penn Jillette, from Penn and Teller, during one of his magic shows yelled "FIRE" in a crowded theater, no panic ensued as he didn't do it to incite a panic, and he continued on with his juggling act. If it were illegal, he would have been arrested for it.


Sorry, PK.

[PhoenixKnight]

The thing is the price of the card in the market is 2.3-2.5M.
I will up the price of captains to 3M for captain generated casts. And I will keep the other 2 at 2.6M

The gun discussion has its forum now. This is only for the message above