Names

[Astragek]

The compromise would be on your end as you would have to either enforce it completely or not at all.

And for that exact reason, we called ourselves Twats. The wonders... And Terrors

[Dmanwuzhere]

All I am saying is if there is going to be rules enforced for the good of the community, then every name that is offensive by the standards set so far should be changed. I mean just the first two pages of the just joined turned up fouler names than any discussed so far or at least by my definition. wussy (#74221) **** (#74217) So I am just saying define the lines and the community can continue policing their little hearts out. It has never been about Dez Nuts, in particular, its in the definition of the standards being cemented and enforced on all.

[Maha]

I personally think all the restrictions are uncalled for at all. It has become the new cool thing to find offense in everything. You know it has gotten bad when people are offended when you insult yourself.

That's a swift compromise after only a few posts while I have been through numerous pms from you about it.

The compromise would be on your end as you would have to either enforce it completely or not at all.

to apply a rule blindly in all circumstances is one of the tools that political correctness thrives on.
Dez name for example, those who recognize a connection will shortly wonder whether that name was done or purpose or just a poor guy using his given name the innocent maidens of avonmoora will not recognize this dilemma and won't be bothered by it until a nutcase starts to point out the incorrectness of that name.

i do not know the names that resulting into this discussion, but what is the use to point to other names and start whining about them? let those who really have a personal objection inform CJ why they have that objection and let all those who think that others may be offended or harmed take care of their own interest.

[Howell Davis]

Then I guess the true question is whether or not someone complained about Jaxx's fleet names or if it was unilateral action by admin... Dman's point is if it was the latter, that creates the issue... if it was the former, we can all go on our merry way...

[Dmanwuzhere]

I personally think all the restrictions are uncalled for at all. It has become the new cool thing to find offense in everything. You know it has gotten bad when people are offended when you insult yourself.

That's a swift compromise after only a few posts while I have been through numerous pms from you about it.

The compromise would be on your end as you would have to either enforce it completely or not at all.

to apply a rule blindly in all circumstances is one of the tools that political correctness thrives on.
Dez name for example, those who recognize a connection will shortly wonder whether that name was done or purpose or just a poor guy using his given name the innocent maidens of avonmoora will not recognize this dilemma and won't be bothered by it until a nutcase starts to point out the incorrectness of that name.

i do not know the names that resulting into this discussion, but what is the use to point to other names and start whining about them? let those who really have a personal objection inform CJ why they have that objection and let all those who think that others may be offended or harmed take care of their own interest.

Yeah, sorry I don't represent the feminine side of an imaginary land nor do I try to talk in riddles that only result in someone wondering whether I had a case of 70s lsd overdose.
What I do represent is myself and what I expect is quite clear, if I say F*** and get told that is bad, then you come by and say that was F****** rude then I expect you to be told it is bad too.
Rules and boundaries are not tools of political correctness, they are what shapes the actions of those here now and those to come. If you do not wish to follow rules then I suggest you make your trade ships trade for a profit at two ports that offer the same product. Be different let the maidens of Avonmora see that no rules can stop you from doing it.
You cant? Oh hmmm seems a unilateral rule is enforcing that.
Whining you say? Now you see political correctness and libtard actions, you know, the I dont feel the same way you do so I must talk down or be judgemental in return tool. lol good luck with that perhaps you should go kiss Dez Nutz and make him feel better.
I raised the question long before it affected me it started with me seeing two very similar names that could be considered inappropriate conversing in a thread made by one who had to change their name.
As for CJ saying my many letters he failed to mention they were all a result from admin initiated conversations but that really doesnt matter. I offered to post our conversations which he strictly forbid. But anyway I am sure I have held you from your gathering of the opinions of the innocent maidens of Avonmora long enough, please continue. *Walks away from the nut case quickly before the disease spreads*

[Dmanwuzhere]

Then I guess the true question is whether or not someone complained about Jaxx's fleet names or if it was unilateral action by admin... Dman's point is if it was the latter, that creates the issue... if it was the former, we can all go on our merry way...

That is only half true, as I complained about Dez nuts being similar to Bigus Dickus and actually worse as no letter manipulations are needed to be offended by the name. My complaint was moderated away by a forums moderator and stricken from the eyes of others. If reporting a name as offensive is the only requirement then Dez Nuts would have been gone and this discussion would not be in play. Not to mention the Sotl that CJ sunk had no reports on it either, he admitted that upon seeing it on a spy report, he sunk it, could have saved the spy report it had been on the plunder board all morning and is probably still lit now lol.

[Captain Jack]

Then I guess the true question is whether or not someone complained about Jaxx's fleet names or if it was unilateral action by admin... Dman's point is if it was the latter, that creates the issue... if it was the former, we can all go on our merry way...

The game has rules and one of them is Netiquette. We ask from our users to be mindful of their attitude at all times.

When someone strays off this, it is a violation of the rules. Picking a abusive name is pretty common. When we see one once the player joins, we change it right away. However, this is not the case at all times. I remember there was even a thread where it was pointing out numbers with abusive names. For the first couple of days, we responded by moderating but then we called this off as the names were too many; there was no point to moderate the name of an inactive player, who will be deleted sooner or later and that no one will get to see.

Things get more serious when active players are involved. Again though, we rely on reports. If you don't report it, chance is that we will not see it. This fleet issue, was rather serious as the fleets were many and some of the names were completely out of order. Yet, no one reported. This creates a false interpretation on what is allowed and what is not. This is also a new issue and it has been created by the newly joined players. The veterans are aware that such are not allowed here.

Obviously, we cannot waste our time policing such things. The playerbase should help to this. Ultimately, an environment when players inform each other on what is allowed and what not works betters and the issues can be resolved in this way without the need of administration intervention. If you reach a point where we need to intervene, then it is already bad. If you force us to follow up in the same issue it is worse and if you end up doing it to provoke us, only a permanent ban will work.

[Dmanwuzhere]

That sounds good, but the name Dez Nuts has been reported and it remains, so when a newly arrived player decides he likes the name and changes his to match or mirror the type of name he sees you will then accuse him or her of being problematic. But Dez nuts is active in forums and greets the new arrivals occasionally and by seeing his name it sets a tone and results in a false sense of what is or is not allowed. That is where we will not agree, because you asking them to change their name while allowing the same type of name to remain is not ever going to be seen as an honest call for generating guidelines you wish to be followed.

[Captain Jack]

As for CJ saying my many letters he failed to mention they were all a result from admin initiated conversations but that really doesnt matter. I offered to post our conversations which he strictly forbid. But anyway I am sure I have held you from your gathering of the opinions of the innocent maidens of Avonmora long enough, please continue. *Walks away from the nut case quickly before the disease spreads*

If you want conversations posted, I agree on the following term:
ALL OUR MESSAGING HISTORY IS POSTED HERE

I have it in a file, ready. If you agree, I will post it.

Postings parts of it will not do it. One needs to know the full story, not selective parts.

I only agree to this though, because I know that parts of my messages have already been sent to other players. I prefer everyone knowing the full truth as we do not have anything to hide. Half truth is problematic for us.

I await for your acceptance of the challenge. If you do not accept it, I at least hope you will not blame administration behind the scenes ever again.

[Dmanwuzhere]

Address the last post first in a manner that is logical and then we can move on to your "challenge". I am not a schoolboy who reacts to dares.