Trump - Off to Destroy the World

[Mack]

Water vapor, but thats obvious, and almost uncontrollable

[Sanji]

water vapor (H2O)???

[Mack]

STEAM! yep

[Marcellus Falcon]

Fukushima was the result of poor location and setup.

We are great at hindsight.

A nuclear meltdown will not create a nuclear explosion, thus no fallout. A fire plume that was exposed to radioactive material is not fallout. The Chernobyl incident was a lot of things and resulted in numerous safety features being implemented.

Sorry, English is my second language and I sometimes mean things other than what I say or write. Get's me in trouble with my wife sometimes!
Fallout is still possible and not to be dismissed. We always think we are so smart and safe until life teaches us that we are not.

And yes Murphy's law, but if we used Murphy's Law as a reason to not do something, we would still be sitting in caves with sticks.

That did not imply to be inactive but to thoughtful action and better alternatives. Our hands will be forced at some point. Uranium is not the most abundant resource on earth. If we continue to use them with a "Once Through Cycle" like the US does at the moment, we'll run out in 200 years. Let it be 300! Storage of the waste takes hundreds of thousands of years to decay. Oil, gas, coal, all is finite. Continue. Go ahead. Use it till you run out. Then what? Still, don't want to use renewable energy? Why not start the transition now, so that for once in this life, we come into a situation a bit more prepared and not have to huddle quickly to come up with energy solutions.

People in a few hundred years will thank us for having been the pioneers of renewables and tech will have advanced so that we can harvest, store and distribute renewables more efficiently.

Things that are done in small scale now are, well, scalable. Like every tech. Even large countries will be able to do it. Saying we can't, now that is going back to caves and sticks. Cave -> Settlement -> Village -> Town -> City -> Metropolis... Everything can be scaled, if done slowly, carefully but with determination.

[Mack]

I'm just having a hard time understanding why so many people think all you have to do is throw money at some scientists and then voila we have a solution..

[sXs]

And one last gem for those of you who claim "Trump-off to destroy the world"


http://www.businessinsider.com/us-2015-renewable-energy-investments-2016-5

The US spends the second most in the development of renewable energy of any nation in the world. This includes development by private companies and government agencies. All the Paris agreement did was require the US to basically triple its' investment amount, not to the benefit of the US, but to the benefit of other countries who don't spend anything, without actually requiring those other countries to meet the same standards as the US.

Basically the UN needed a checking account to fund their agenda and they once again turned to the US. We are 20 trillion in debt. the checkbook balance is in the red. Like Trump or not, this was a very bad deal and does next to nothing to address climate change.


Answer to question posed above, the #1 greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vaporwhich is 85-90 of greenhouse gas volume. 8-9% is CO2 and of that 8-9% only about 3% is man-made. which if you do the math. Overall man-made CO2 emmissions account for about 0.117% of total greenhouse gases.

[Marcellus Falcon]

And one last gem for those of you who claim "Trump-off to destroy the world"


http://www.businessinsider.com/us-2015-renewable-energy-investments-2016-5

The US spends the second most in the development of renewable energy of any nation in the world. This includes development by private companies and government agencies. All the Paris agreement did was require the US to basically triple its' investment amount, not to the benefit of the US, but to the benefit of other countries who don't spend anything, without actually requiring those other countries to meet the same standards as the US.

Basically the UN needed a checking account to fund their agenda and they once again turned to the US. We are 20 trillion in debt. the checkbook balance is in the red. Like Trump or not, this was a very bad deal and does next to nothing to address climate change.


Answer to question posed above, the #1 greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vaporwhich is 85-90 of greenhouse gas volume. 8-9% is CO2 and of that 8-9% only about 3% is man-made. which if you do the math. Overall man-made CO2 emmissions account for about 0.117% of total greenhouse gases.

I also have a great site to... um... site!
https://skepticalscience.com/empirical- ... -basic.htm

[Marcellus Falcon]

Funny thing about this thread is that we could go on forever lol

[Most Lee Harmless]

Calm down : we can double greenhouse gas emissions and still not destroy the world : all that happens is the world will change to adapt to the new atmospheric conditions : chiefly, climate will change and make large parts of the world unsuitable for current human-preferred food production and habitation : so, humans will have to change their ways to adapt too. If they dont, its humanity that will be on the path to destruction, not the world.

The 'world' doesnt actually need humans : we rather need the world.

[sXs]

And one last gem for those of you who claim "Trump-off to destroy the world"


http://www.businessinsider.com/us-2015-renewable-energy-investments-2016-5

The US spends the second most in the development of renewable energy of any nation in the world. This includes development by private companies and government agencies. All the Paris agreement did was require the US to basically triple its' investment amount, not to the benefit of the US, but to the benefit of other countries who don't spend anything, without actually requiring those other countries to meet the same standards as the US.

Basically the UN needed a checking account to fund their agenda and they once again turned to the US. We are 20 trillion in debt. the checkbook balance is in the red. Like Trump or not, this was a very bad deal and does next to nothing to address climate change.


Answer to question posed above, the #1 greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vaporwhich is 85-90 of greenhouse gas volume. 8-9% is CO2 and of that 8-9% only about 3% is man-made. which if you do the math. Overall man-made CO2 emmissions account for about 0.117% of total greenhouse gases.

I also have a great site to... um... site!
https://skepticalscience.com/empirical- ... -basic.htm

Here is the math i spoke of earlier.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

Yes this could go on forever.