Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Vane » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:41 am

Tools of the trade, well pirates re fitted and outfitted ships to suit their style, flagship anyone.. bonuses would be great to promote more pirates otherwise I could live without but the downers in all the topics are tiresome. Expanding on skirmish so pirates can earn decently doing so and not need to resort to ship stealing so frequently that merchant "moan" about it, now that a plus all around.

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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:17 am

If giving pirates some perks is giving them some sort of unearned boon then we as law abiding citizens should need none. Yet we have many. I am not against pirates gaining perks or improvements. Because as the game makes us traders stronger that in effect weakens the pirates. I do agree that pirates should never start or be on completely equal footing as law abiding citizens. But they should not be tethered so tight that occasionally one or two cant tweak the system using their brains utilizing the system to its maximum and make a name for themselves. This particular suggestion is so minuscule that it should not raise any argument. I disagree with the flag ship but that is another story lol. :chest
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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Grimrock Litless » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:06 am

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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby ChaIbaud » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:10 am

Grimrock Litless wrote:-1

I abstained from saying +1 due to previous debates over fairness in the game and my opinions being publicly known. It's not surprising you gave a -1 but perhaps because of the other forums on this topic an explanation would be appropriate rather than leaving your response to let my mind wonder: did he downvote it because he just wants the game to be lopsided in terms of gameplay and an obvious choice as to which path to pursue?
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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby sXs » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:45 am

I am in agreement with SHM and Vane here. Without Pirates and, I hate to say this........., Mercs, this is Traders Glory not Pirates Glory.

It seems every time someone suggests something to benefit the black flag, we have people that down vote because it doesn't benefit their personal play style.

Look at all the approved suggestions of late. How many benefit the black flag? Yes, you can play the role of a pirate and fly a nation flag, but isn't that hypocritical?

I have seen good suggestions ie pirates cove, black market, and this one all get down voted instead of suggesting improvements. Most good suggestions that people have issue with certain aspects, they suggest improvements, here just a down vote because of what is perceived as an unfair advantage.

Tell me, what reason does anyone have to fly the black? There is absolutely no advantage at all.

I really like this. Seems SHM put a lot of thought and time into this. I disagree with only one point he made.

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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:37 am

I have, quite reasonably, asked what it is pirates need that requires some special benefit : pirates have walked away from nations, walked away from trade, they choose the path of crime, of living outside 'civilization' : just seems a bit off to me to cast aside the benefits of citizenship then want some compensatory benefits because, well, you dont get those citizenship benefits any more.
Pirates can do very well in Avonmora : acquiring the right techs alone can put up to 1.6million per day in bonuses in your pocket and you wont need to cast a single voodoo card to get them. It aint an easy life, you do need to think and plan but you know what, so does everyone else if they want to succeed in this game.
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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Haron » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:40 am

The suggested perk of removing turn requirements for skirmishes may be a good one. What I do not like is to make it Black Flag only. I do not prefer a situation where all pirates fly Black, while all traders fly national flags. I think this would end the pirates flying national colors.

I see Black as an option for those unable to belong to a nation. I think it should be fully possible to be in a nation and still be a pirate. I dislike making that distinction by flags. Thus I am of the opinion that perks given to pirates should not be locked to the Black Flag. At least not a major advantage like this.
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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:58 am

I am opposed to zero-turn skirmishes for anyone, pirate or no : one of the limiters in this game is turns : the gathering of, the keeping of and the spending of : we all have to make choices in that regard : use credits to buy extra turns? Or buy voodoo? Or buy ships? Use turns to make hits? Build ships? Cast voodoo? Speed up builds or techs? Hunt treasure? There will never be enough turns to do it all, every day, so we have to choose what seems best today : making skirmishing turn-free will break that conundrum, and that wont be a good thing for the game.
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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Haron » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:30 am

It is no doubt a great perk to remove the turns requirements for skirmishes. It would help pirates a lot, and make skirmish tech a valuable technology.

However, they would still be governed by the number of skirmish points. And the most lucrative element of the game, trading, require no turns at all, which is the reason traders can do so much trading, and why it's so much more lucrative than piracy, which is limited by turns (and skirmish points).
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Re: Pirate Rankings and Bonuses

Postby Cutpurse » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:09 am

Haron wrote:The suggested perk of removing turn requirements for skirmishes may be a good one. What I do not like is to make it Black Flag only. I do not prefer a situation where all pirates fly Black, while all traders fly national flags. I think this would end the pirates flying national colors.

I see Black as an option for those unable to belong to a nation. I think it should be fully possible to be in a nation and still be a pirate. I dislike making that distinction by flags. Thus I am of the opinion that perks given to pirates should not be locked to the Black Flag. At least not a major advantage like this.


i do not see good reason to give both free skirmishes, and nation rank bonuses, including stipends, to mercenaries/privateers, it should be perk gained from decision, which would lead to losing other benefits.

perhaps the free of turns- skirmishes could be given pirates in vinicity of a pirate controlled port? this could serve as one little incentive towards pirates obtaining and controlling a port, as ive understood, that it is not currently worth the cost/effort to them.
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