US Next War

[Grapefruit]

As i said, i was unsure of my facts on Grenada, but it would seem that you are saying they were protecting tax-paying citizens, so my point about governments not caring about other nations atrocities stands.
it would seem i was also misinformed on Kosovo, however as Lana says " someones profit was behind it"

[ChaIbaud]

The phrase 'Survival of the fittest' is often misconstrued to mean survival of the strongest, or cleverest, or mightiest : that is not its actual meaning at all : its not fit as in strength, or smarts, or power but 'fit' as in fitting in : that which is best adapted to its environment will thrive and therefore pass on more of it 'fit' genes to further generations : the nice thing about Darwins Theory is that it doesnt mean only the fittest genes will get passed on, just that they are more likely to be passed on : thus we will still have the idiot gene infecting humanity because, who knows, one day it may well be the 'fittest' and thus having enough idiots around will go someway to ensuring the survival of the species : yeah, that is a worrying thought...

Having the adapted, evolved genetic coding does make you "stronger" in a way. That extra trait is a way that you can last longer than those decades before you. The saying can be used to describe America in the world because of the democracy we have. Over the almost 150 years we've been in the world, we have evolved with our form of government that had seldom been used. Policies have changed, adapting to the times. Survival of the fittest comes into play when you consider Reagan and the USSR. We evolved to fit the outside world and took a stand against something we believed was a detriment. That presidency nailed the USSR in its coffin and really spelled doom for the pitiful system of communism.

[Most Lee Harmless]

You should consider how much the USA adopted aspects of the state socialist system to survive : also, how much it has taken from the State Socialist systems of control prevalent in Soviet Russia : Its also curious how much Russia has adopted the free-wheeling robber baron ethos of early frontier USA together with an almost 'manifest destiny' approach to regional politics : it can be a mistake to consider the left-right divide to be total and exclusionary : or that means of control are specifically the preserve of one political system or the other : frankly, can you tell the difference between the supra-legal powers used by Homeland Security and those of the KGB? Or consider the domestic surveillance reach of the Stasi to be lesser than that of the NSA? And all use the same logic, the same justification : to protect the 'homeland' from 'danger'. In the end, its largely semantics : 'Rodina' or 'Homeland', 'nomenklatura' or '1%-ers' : survival dont mean you are perfect, it just means you are a bit better than those who dont.

[ChaIbaud]

Sure, it's adopted some socialistic aspects as seen in the Great Depression but these are very basic systems that are not really engrained in the system and are still talked about. Even as carefully designed as the policies were, the Government's action was not the reason the American people shot back up after the downturn. Socialistic policies have been adopted but they are minimal and controversial today

[Most Lee Harmless]

Actually, I was refering to the subsidisation of corporate America : the common people have been largely ignored save for token measures designed to do the minimum necessary to prevent social breakdown...

[Mack]

Actually, I was refering to the subsidisation of corporate America : the common people have been largely ignored save for token measures designed to do the minimum necessary to prevent social breakdown...

are there any super rich people that don't do that

[Mack]

You should consider how much the USA adopted aspects of the state socialist system to survive : also, how much it has taken from the State Socialist systems of control prevalent in Soviet Russia : Its also curious how much Russia has adopted the free-wheeling robber baron ethos of early frontier USA together with an almost 'manifest destiny' approach to regional politics : it can be a mistake to consider the left-right divide to be total and exclusionary : or that means of control are specifically the preserve of one political system or the other : frankly, can you tell the difference between the supra-legal powers used by Homeland Security and those of the KGB? Or consider the domestic surveillance reach of the Stasi to be lesser than that of the NSA? And all use the same logic, the same justification : to protect the 'homeland' from 'danger'. In the end, its largely semantics : 'Rodina' or 'Homeland', 'nomenklatura' or '1%-ers' : survival dont mean you are perfect, it just means you are a bit better than those who dont.

I do not believe any great nation or civilization could have ever been created without any Dirty Deeds ever being done on their behalf... success has a price sometimes it's very high... Everyone wants to be #1

[Bmw]

The US is the richest and most powerful nation militarily in the world we fought a 2 front war during WW2 when all other nations that had to do that failed yes the US had allies during WW2 but in the case of England we basically supported there whole economy and they probably wouldn't have been able to make it through the war without us. The USSR was one of the poorest on average nations in the world at the time and with the trains and small amount of other supplies the US sent they were able to pickup and move there whole ecomonic production when faced with a serious threat. The US is a strong and rich nation but in some cases the US will allow suffering to go on without "directly" interfering. During the first part of WW2 we sat on the sidelines but soon after we started sending resorces over to Britan in exchange for cash and after just a little while longer Britan was running out of cold hard cash so we started the lend lease program that's when we sent the trains over to the USSR and we sentillions upon millions of tons of iron and other stuff over to Britan to help them defend against the German war machine. After Japan bombed pearl harbor they woke the full might of the sleeping giant.

[Admiral Nelson]

The US is the richest and most powerful nation militarily in the world we fought a 2 front war during WW2 when all other nations that had to do that failed yes the US had allies during WW2 but in the case of England we basically supported there whole economy and they probably wouldn't have been able to make it through the war without us.

Ah yes! Americanism to its best!

During World War 2, you guys were not the richest. In fact when you first joined the Second World War you had a lack of everything - You were down to a few Carriers, and a few other naval ships. You were still suffering from The Great Depression. It was not until 1943 (There abouts) more ships started to be produce. And America started to become a 'fighting' force. Which leads me to a fun fact: Towards the end of the Midway War, there was only one operational Carrier named The Enterprise.

America was not getting bombed every night, not one of the enemy powers could actually reach America for bombing runs in terms of citys - Whilst the Axis (Germany) could reach London within hours - As could bombers, thus came the Battle of Britain. Yes deals were made with America with Russavelt (I think). From those, you guys gained money - Which helped you build your fleets, and overall power. So we feeded off each other. Compare the size of America against England. America is this huge 'country' compared to England, which is a 'dot' on the map. England, putting up the firepower of a much larger nation.

England was in a war for 6 years whilst United States of Ameirca for 3 years, and that was only because the Japenese 'raided' Pearl Harbour, there real intent was to put the 'American' Power's naval force out of business; which a majority of the Battleships, destroyers were in the harbor, however the Japenese made a mistake - 3 Carriers were not in dry dock. USS Hornet, USS Enterprise and USS Yorktown. The fate of the Midway war would rely on these ships - For they were the last operational carriers. Wwhich lead to the Battle of Midway, Battle of Pacific.

You guys thought a 2 front 'war' yes you did. However, that does not mean you fought alone. The US Soldiers would often, land in the UK's airfields (Lincolnshire) such as RAF East Kirby, RAF Scampton and RAF Hemswell (A prime bomber base). US and UK soldiers both came together for 'D-Day' the other front you were fighting was in the pacific war (Naval combat) which yes, you guys were alone in fighting. However this was towards the end of the war - When you guys had resources. America was in the war for 4 Years, The first 2 years it was crippled in fighting force (Naval).

Your arguement is invalid. You are saying other nations failed to fight a '2' front war is utter bullshit.

[Bmw]

The US is the richest and most powerful nation militarily in the world we fought a 2 front war during WW2 when all other nations that had to do that failed yes the US had allies during WW2 but in the case of England we basically supported there whole economy and they probably wouldn't have been able to make it through the war without us.

Ah yes! Americanism to its best! Idiot.

We will pay you to use your own manpower to kill our enemy and we will make you take the bill in the end.