2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

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Who do you think has the best overall team!

Poll ended at Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:06 pm

Team DaVinci
30
29%
Team Slindur
19
18%
Team Sparrow
30
29%
Team Lowe
10
10%
Team Dungeness
16
15%
 
Total votes : 105

Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Maha » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:06 pm

actually i found the first draft more exiting. i knew almost none of the draftees and digested all the motivantions of the captains and the comments. This time i didn't get too much new info. especially when players who started at the same time as i did started to be drafted.

Still, with the teams complete, it is fun to evaluate their various merits and figure out who's best.

i disagree with CJ 2 more days won't do much good. an event like this will lose momentum and that downgrades the effect. better end when the exitement is still high.

look forward to the fall event; new setup and all. much honor to Shadowood!
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Mugiwara » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:09 pm

DezNutz wrote:Vote how you want, but you are still basing your vote on best team in battle/war, not overall. All of your abilities are based on battle/war.


Pls can you explain me what should i keep in mind when voting?

enough resource to stay alive during long period of wars or conflicts.
Its not directly about war its about gaining wealth and power.

enough power to fight for a long time of duration.
Its totally about war.

theorycrafting and strategic maneuver abilities.
You know theorycrafting and strategic maneuvers not usable for only wars. You can use them for diplomacy increase your trade income gain wealth train newcomers with new methods,

outsmarting their opponents moves and be able to nullify them.
Its also not only about war. You should think widely. It can be anything.

High perseverance and concentration.
These are needed for any kind of players. Not only for wars whatever you want to do in game which path you choose for yourself these will help you.

Power to decide without being affected by feelings.
This is about leadership. Main idea become a fair leader and Behave on an equal footing.
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby DezNutz » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:18 pm

Mugiwara wrote:
DezNutz wrote:Vote how you want, but you are still basing your vote on best team in battle/war, not overall. All of your abilities are based on battle/war.


Pls can you explain me what should i keep in mind when voting?

enough resource to stay alive during long period of wars or conflicts.
Its not directly about war its about gaining wealth and power.

enough power to fight for a long time of duration.
Its totally about war.

theorycrafting and strategic maneuver abilities.
You know theorycrafting and strategic maneuvers not usable for only wars. You can use them for diplomacy increase your trade income gain wealth train newcomers with new methods,

outsmarting their opponents moves and be able to nullify them.
Its also not only about war. You should think widely. It can be anything.

High perseverance and concentration.
These are needed for any kind of players. Not only for wars whatever you want to do in game which path you choose for yourself these will help you.

Power to decide without being affected by feelings.
This is about leadership. Main idea become a fair leader and Behave on an equal footing.


Would you rate a player that avoids conflict the same as one who survives well in conflict, both players are identical with exception to conflicts? Does one need immense wealth to avoid conflict? Does one need immense wealth to fight a war? The better player would depend on the what you are looking for in a team. The goal is best overall. If everyone has high survivability in conflict, it could be seen as a negative from a traders perspective (remember overall best, so you need to view it from both a traders and a raiders perspectives), as they have a tendacy to be involved in conflict. Where as a team full of non-conflict style players would be the opposite. The best overall team is a well balanced team that has a good leader and functions together as a team. This is what makes the best team. A team comprised of stark opposites (biggest traders and bigger raiders) may look awesome, but when graded overall they could average out, as each member must be graded on each respective game aspect.
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Lana » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:26 pm

Wow... DezNuts, why don't you, simply, tell him, for whom to vote? :D
I like your thinking Mugiwara! :y
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Bmw » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:31 pm

To survive here you need to be in a well rounded team or be well rounded yourself I find that some people being well rounded and a few that are oriented to one side or another in a team seems to make it pretty good but if the team is well rounded then I consider them above others.
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Mugiwara » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:09 pm

DezNutz wrote:Would you rate a player that avoids conflict the same as one who survives well in conflict, both players are identical with exception to conflicts? Does one need immense wealth to avoid conflict? Does one need immense wealth to fight a war? The better player would depend on the what you are looking for in a team. The goal is best overall. If everyone has high survivability in conflict, it could be seen as a negative from a traders perspective (remember overall best, so you need to view it from both a traders and a raiders perspectives), as they have a tendacy to be involved in conflict. Where as a team full of non-conflict style players would be the opposite. The best overall team is a well balanced team that has a good leader and functions together as a team. This is what makes the best team. A team comprised of stark opposites (biggest traders and bigger raiders) may look awesome, but when graded overall they could average out, as each member must be graded on each respective game aspect.


You have a point. Im agree with some parts but not at all. Dont forget any of these teams not include only traders or raiders. All of them have mix amount of players from every kind of playstyle.

Also if you read my message carefully i didnt said who got immense wealth to survive. i said enough resource to keep alive. But it doesnt mean i just choose who got bigger resources or backups. i didnt. This is just one of the conditions like any other conditions i considered while voting. Also i didnt write all conditions here. i just gave you a simple examples about how i decided to vote.

In this game fighting and winning if one star as an importance. Winning on the table 3 star. Winning even without participating on the table 5 star.

This game has too many different aspects and playstyles. and even 2 player cant do the same identical things with same order. That comes from diversity of playstyle and playerbase. 2+2=4 in math but not in here. while fighting each other it can be 0. while staying in same side it can be 4. While sharing same desires, hopes, goals it can be 22.

You cant expect from others to vote for your expectations. even all of us would be agreed on terms of voting conditions still results will be a lot different. For example for me best raider will be avery but for you it will be tom lowe. for others it may be shadowood. You cant simply say we are wrong with our thinking way. or for traders you may say CDV best trader but for me lodswe would be best. or for others Captain D. would be best. its not one of them worse than others. its about, how they playing and representing their playstyle.

Also survival ability some can say Avery like cockroach(sorry for example:) ) or bmw you cant kill them. but for others there is no point to fight against CDV because you cant defeat him. He got inexhaustable resources. its really about how you see them. Thats why this draft is good in my opinion. Every player have their own playstyle with unique personality. we are voting team compositions which are suits your mind perfectly or close to perfection.



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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Valar Morghulis » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:40 pm

It may not come down to resources if these teams come to fruitition.

A man may have single handedly shook the largest nation to the core. Of course resources may play a major role but it may not be the deciding factor
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Valar Morghulis » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:52 pm

All teams may be more than able and only a real fight may give proof to the worthy winner
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby DezNutz » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:20 pm

Lana wrote:Wow... DezNuts, why don't you, simply, tell him, for whom to vote? :D
I like your thinking Mugiwara! :y


Missing a few commas. Just expressing my opinion. If you look through the various comments about the teams, most relate to how they would be in a fight. An overall best isn't solely based on fighting.
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Re: 2nd Bi-Annual Fantasy Draft Voting Poll!

Postby Black sparrow » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:57 pm

I can see that the last vote to our team, while the score was 30-29 came from an existing vote that initially belonged to another team.
This brings me again to the thought that there should always be a second vote, between the 2 teams that gather most votes.

I am sure that after a point, some votes were replaced. This took off some votes from the rest teams who really do not deserve to have such difference. They are all good teams and differences are only details.
That's food for thought for next Fantasy Draft. I personally think this method, 2 votings, will be better.

I am looking forward for the vote between the two teams now :)
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