Lifting of Sanctions

[Bmw]

Just don't feel free to light me up or you may have a larger problem on your hands

[Haron]

Just don't feel free to light me up or you may have a larger problem on your hands

Having AYES declare war on us: Nah, business as usual.
Making BMW angry: NOW we're in trouble!

[Bmw]

Just don't feel free to light me up or you may have a larger problem on your hands

Having AYES declare war on us: Nah, business as usual.
Making BMW angry: NOW we're in trouble!

I might not have much in voodoo at times but defending is pretty easy for me it will end up costing you more then you get back from attacking me.

[Most Lee Harmless]

From the AYES point of view 'Lit is hit' : we have no issues with folk grabbing a bit of plunder from our lit fleets : if we lit them ourselves whilst plundering, they are fair game : if another lit them, our issue is with them : the only exception may be if anyone goes a bit overboard and approaches ship-stealing levels of plundering : even then, we prefer our friends to gain from that situation, not our enemies, so it would be more a case-by-case situation. So, moderate third-party plundering of our lit fleets is not a problem, have at it.

Next point raised here is 'Why attack the whole guild for the actions of a few?' : My view is 'Share the name, share the gain, share the pain' : its what a guild should be : being a member confers some protection via the guilds reputation : it provides opportunities to learn, advance your skills and to share in any action : that also means sharing the retribution, as well as the plunder chances. If your guild is avowedly an 'action' guild, then you should expect conflict as a daily event, both in- and out-bound. If that dont suit, you are in the wrong guild.

Not too sure about the 'declaring war' aspect : bit melodramatic for me : simply put, AYES works to certain rules regarding hostile acts carried out by its members : members have been booted for breaking those rules : In the case of [MERC], those restrictions no longer apply, so they are fair game for our more aggressive members but let's be honest, its no more than how [MERC] have viewed and acted towards us.

Now, on with the fun

[Donald Trump]

BMW vs Merc? 100% off contracts?! It is going to be interesting after this thing with AYES blows over.

[Haron]

Next point raised here is 'Why attack the whole guild for the actions of a few?' : My view is 'Share the name, share the gain, share the pain' : its what a guild should be : being a member confers some protection via the guilds reputation : it provides opportunities to learn, advance your skills and to share in any action : that also means sharing the retribution, as well as the plunder chances. If your guild is avowedly an 'action' guild, then you should expect conflict as a daily event, both in- and out-bound. If that dont suit, you are in the wrong guild.

I completely agree. This is the meaning of being in a Team. And that's what the T'zak Ryn is: Not just a guild, but a Team!

Oh, and this is how we see others as well, of course. Attack us, and your guild may get the retribution.

I expect newbies to be left alone, though, unless they participate in the action. Let's not scare the Young Ones away :-)

[Haron]

BMW vs Merc? 100% off contracts?! It is going to be interesting after this thing with AYES blows over.

We have no desire to attack BMW unless we expect to profit from it! Attacking without profiting makes me feel so dirty...

[Mugiwara]

im happy going around smacking the lit up fleets but i wont go into voodoo i just like me gold. so don't blame me for attacking ya blame the one lighting you up lol.

Attacking our lit up fleets in times of war is considered cooperating with the enemy. It is probably a wise action if you are a guildless, pure pirate. However, if you have trade fleets or guild members you care about, or are trying to build a nation, it might pay off to stop and think if this really helps your long term interests ;-)

At first Grenada not a nation built by BMW we built it with mohammed plato and other friends. BMW joined us like Robert Surcouf joined too. It doesnt mean he dont want to help grenada he does. But for a member of a nation threatening a whole nation not wise thing to do. You are a businessman you should be professional but it seems you acting with your emotions. If you will threatening each nations when one of their members had problem with you how do you expecting to find new customers? If you will target Grenada just because one of our members attacked your members why should i support you with my golds and made a contract with you? In that conditions I should be masochist to do that.

Shadowood, Charles Vane and Banger attacked your members more than BMW. So are you threatening them too or just BMW? Because i know Charles Vane also building a nation and have long term plans. And Shadowood, he is also currently working hard to build a new nation it means they are in danger aswell right? Because they attacked your members when they lit up. So St. kitts- UK and Vudu also made an agreement with AYES to attack your members? Oh also you are in spain and spain's members also attack your guild members which means you also targeting yourself?

Or is it just easy to threatening a new nation when you felt bad? We are definitely a new nation but it doesnt mean we dont deserve respects. We are not punchbags. If you feel like that you are totally wrong.
I'm inviting you to common sense. If BMW did something to you, you can target him. Because he know rules. Also if i will do something to you, you can target me aswell its reasonable and understandable. I wont complain about that. As you always said just dont forget nations and guilds are different.


PS: Sorry for giving your names in my post but i have to.


Sincerely Mugiwara...

[Haron]

We have no qualms with Grenada. You take my statements too far. I do not see hurting Grenada as a way to hurt BMW.

For others, thought, things may be different. Some people are best hurt directly. Some best through their guild. Some best through their nations. If we need to hit someone, we will hit where we think it hurts the most.

We have not even attacked BMW at all. Yet. We consider plunders against us in times of war more serious than otherwise, though. And making that clear in advance seemed the right thing to do.

[Donald Trump]

Mugiwara, they are attacking BMW not Grenada.

As well, I think you are mistaken, but most nations don't fend for their own dwellers and their personal problems. Guilds do that shit.


Nations fend for themselves and ports, not their members. It is an odd thing, and many newbies that are in training guilds think that nations are for some reasons safe havens and their treasuries a personal piggy bank.