Down with aristocracy

[Shadowood]

come to barbados...no money, no land, just a little rum and no headaches.

I'll bet you would even let him become King ! Great Idea !

I thought he was talking about you Stan. You seem like you need to de-stress.

[Bmw]

best case here is that this whole war happens spain gets weaker and loses another port when i joined the game. Spain was respectable with plenty of ports they have dropped a good number of those ports. they have let other nations join the board i respect that. i joined spain for awhile (not too long and this was a few months ago.) there wasn't anyone that had any real power there it seemed more like a mass of random people. Not a nation like iom is or like what the usa is it was confusion.

[Donald Trump]

If they be so weak. BMW vs AYES say?

[Bmw]

If they be so weak. BMW vs AYES say?

as a nation there not 100% in on the same page no 2 people are but im not doubting there combat abilities i know that each of them could probably defeat a good number of us here 1v1

[Vane]

If Stan speaks for spain, and suggests they may increase their holdings to 6 ports it would seem to me Spain holds themselves in a superior status and will attempt to overrun another nations port in the name of Ivan!

This does not seem a respectable action to me.. and one that contradicts Spains founding purpose. Troubling times ahead im sure.

[Stan Rogers]

All Spain wants is five ports. If some nation wishes to wage war on Spain, war means just that...war. When one choses to fight, it better be as if their life depends on it because it just may be true.

Now I know Ivan is not going to go away. I admire his weird sense of dedication to a project however, his words are,

"Yes, I know they want their 5 ports. But, I wanted a bigger Spain at one point".

Spanish council refused. The statement says it all.

If Ivan wants to go the route of finding somewhere else to live, Spain might allow it but they will never take their eyes of that place due to his misguided sense of moral judgement and foolhardy desire to constantly wage war somewhere in Avonmora.

[Shadowood]

If Ivan wants to go the route of finding somewhere else to live, Spain might allow it....

This is the exact same, I'm higher then you talk you had when IoM was trying to take Chalkos. It really doesn't paint you in the best of light or Spain. I have come to realize that you make Spain look bad. We never see Jim or Lodswe speaking like this.

[Stan Rogers]

Then please let me rephrase.
Spain may or may not wage war to keep what they currently have.
Does that sound more politically correct and pleasing ?

Also to directly address the meaning in other words,
Spain may find it necessary to interfere with any nation they feel threatened by.

[Donald Trump]

If Ivan wants to go the route of finding somewhere else to live, Spain might allow it....

This is the exact same, I'm higher then you talk you had when IoM was trying to take Chalkos. It really doesn't paint you in the best of light or Spain. I have come to realize that you make Spain look bad. We never see Jim or Lodswe speaking like this.

I don't really understand the hate towards Stan. I think his message is very clear and understandable. "Don't touch us and we won't touch you."

It is unreasonable to dislike an entity for taking back what is rightfully theirs.

[Shadowood]

If Ivan wants to go the route of finding somewhere else to live, Spain might allow it....

This is the exact same, I'm higher then you talk you had when IoM was trying to take Chalkos. It really doesn't paint you in the best of light or Spain. I have come to realize that you make Spain look bad. We never see Jim or Lodswe speaking like this.

I don't really understand the hate towards Stan. I think his message is very clear and understandable. "Don't touch us and we won't touch you."

It is unreasonable to dislike an entity for taking back what is rightfully theirs.

Oh I respect Stan very much for sticking up and fighting for what he believes is his. I disagree with how he speaks to others in the game as if we owe him or are beneath him. That is my only gripe.

I would hope and respect someone if they just said "not gonna happen nice try though". Or like when I stole some SoLT from Slidur a while back. He didn't ***** and moan like some. He simply kept playing the game. I respect that.