Port Diversity

[Sebena]

now that set up is beyond possible noone can have 100K turns it's too overpowerd and at the level of 5th grader... even admins have a slightly over 1K turns... Give me normal situation and you'll get answer after I estimate situation...

[PhoenixKnight]

So, i thought ports where just about influence, whats about losses of ships in port wars?

At the moment port wars are about influence which happen through voodoo and gold. So port wars right now is about how much of the right voodoo and gold you have as a country.
There are advocates for changing that to include ships and buildings

[Bmw]

So, i thought ports where just about influence, whats about losses of ships in port wars?

well for most players aka the one's that dont spend anything it gets a ton harder to keep a port when they lose there ships because you dont have an income

[Most Lee Harmless]

The key to port control wars is simple : it is a battle of wills : those who wish to keep it, those who wish to take it : willpower matters because its a battle that will always consume more gold, voodoo and effort than it can realistically repay ( unless one takes and holds it for a very long time). Thus the victor is usually the one who will risk most and inevitably spend most. It's about who blinks first and backs off.

Moving the battle field from just port fights to sea battles often can act to sap the will to fight on : it distracts, it disables, it financially weakens the opponent : but sea battles on their own will not take a port : its deep pockets that do that.

[DezNutz]

Let's say PHX left Eygpt today and went to a country with no players. How long would be hold those ports. Not long. There is no way he could.

You must have not been paying attention to ports. PHX took Baramas, Regis, and Tortuga by himself. If there were other players in Egypt, they weren't in the Council and they weren't in the top 10 of those ports when they were taken. Players started to migrate to Egypt and even then, Seaglory was taken solely by PHX. Pania, Goroum, and St. Martins became part of Egypt by other players moving to Egypt.

Now, I'm not saying that a war wouldn't result in port loss, but he has held his original 3 ports by himself for a significant amount of game time (~200 days+). That isn't a short period of time.

If he switched nations, I'm willing to bet he could easily hold three of his 4 influence held ports without issue. He holds 655M influence, which is more than the remaining top 10 influence holders combined.

[Bmw]

you can take a sea battle and turn it against the aggressor break there mindbar and steal a bunch of there gold along with lighting them up and rekting there income and you could also lock them out of the port so you can take it but also deep pockets take into affect with it

[Shadowood]

Let's say PHX left Eygpt today and went to a country with no players. How long would be hold those ports. Not long. There is no way he could.

You must have not been paying attention to ports. PHX took Baramas, Regis, and Tortuga by himself. If there were other players in Egypt, they weren't in the Council and they weren't in the top 10 of those ports when they were taken. Players started to migrate to Egypt and even then, Seaglory was taken solely by PHX. Pania, Goroum, and St. Martins became part of Egypt by other players moving to Egypt.

Now, I'm not saying that a war wouldn't result in port loss, but he has held his original 3 ports by himself for a significant amount of game time (~200 days+). That isn't a short period of time.

If he switched nations, I'm willing to bet he could easily hold three of his 4 influence held ports without issue. He holds 655M influence, which is more than the remaining top 10 influence holders combined.

You and I good sir will have to agree to disagree on this. While I believe PHX would hold them for a bit. I don't think he would be able to for very long. He is well liked so this would add to him holding the ports longer. Take Valar when he recently took 2 ports from Bermuda. And had over 100 mil influence. He didn't last long on his own. (I may have had something to do with this). . But he also threatened the top 10 ship holders and the nation of Bermuda. Even if I didn't do what I did he would have fell eventually. (And his motives where never port control too)

[DezNutz]

Fair, but then again, we also don't know PHX's resources. It could go either way, but I'm confident that PHX could hold his own.

[PhoenixKnight]

Shadowood. Here is a glimpse of my resources. I have 32k influence points in St. Martinis. Watch it change in 5 minutes

[PhoenixKnight]

Now I am top influence in St. Martinis using gold alone