Politics Post

[ChaIbaud]

reread that post please chin chin.. think about what u said... never said that the people were less in germany than russia, i just said they got more reinforcements. before u say "SAME THING!!!!" the germans were cornering the russians. picture v





then russian reinforcements came in and flanked







they were less numerous but because of the layout of the city and the flank patterns the germans wound up getting circled on and defeated because hitler wouldnt retreat

[Donald Trump]

Russia had NO reinforcements at Stalingrad. This was Moscow's last stand, it was EVERYONE LEFT.

[ChaIbaud]

Hitler made the mistake of attacking the USSR too early. had he waited for his forces to finish off the western forces then invaded Russia things would be different. not to mention his troops were ill prepared for the cold Russian Winters, which also caused Napoleon trouble back when he fought against them. Also Stalin had a pretty brutal policy during the war, any one who deserted would be killed. But America had scored some fine victories as well. General Patton in particular won quite a few victories. In the end we cant say ONE nation won the war. Ultimately however, we have no way of knowing how things would have turned out. We can only speculate. Maybe if America hadn't joined the war, Hitler would have won, maybe not.

the allies won the world war as seen with the many treaties with axis powers and surrender of others.. hitler could have won if he had chosen better friends or hidden his ideals better, america wanted to isolate communism and tojo was the japanese embodiment of commie fascism and the US thought it could be next if it didnt stop it all.

[ChaIbaud]

Russia had NO reinforcements at Stalingrad. This was Moscow's last stand, it was EVERYONE LEFT.

"Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was determined to liberate the city named after him, and in November he ordered massive reinforcements to the area. On November 19, General Zhukov launched a great Soviet counteroffensive out of the rubble of Stalingrad. German command underestimated the scale of the counterattack, and the Sixth Army was quickly overwhelmed by the offensive, which involved 500,000 Soviet troops, 900 tanks, and 1,400 aircraft. Within three days, the entire German force of more than 200,000 men was encircled."

thanks google.. source was the history channel... god bless documentaries

[Meliva]

we might need to change the title of this forum from Politics to History

truth be told I'm more of a fan of history then politics anyway and its interesting and fun to read these discussions

[ChaIbaud]

its fun to make chin chin use all caps

[Donald Trump]

Russia had NO reinforcements at Stalingrad. This was Moscow's last stand, it was EVERYONE LEFT.

"Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was determined to liberate the city named after him, and in November he ordered massive reinforcements to the area. On November 19, General Zhukov launched a great Soviet counteroffensive out of the rubble of Stalingrad. German command underestimated the scale of the counterattack, and the Sixth Army was quickly overwhelmed by the offensive, which involved 500,000 Soviet troops, 900 tanks, and 1,400 aircraft. Within three days, the entire German force of more than 200,000 men was encircled."

thanks google.. source was the history channel... god bless documentaries

Counter attacks, and the reinforcements were still less than the combined force of the Sixth Army.

[ChaIbaud]

what happens to no reinforcements? what happened to 700k+ germans?

"200k men countered by 500k soviets plus tanks and aircraft"

poor chin chin history channels trumps all

[Bmw]

hitler and stalin both didint want retreating

[Most Lee Harmless]

For one, if he raises the minimum wage, basically doubling it, most places are going to fire people to compensate. Even if his opinions are "true," they are a liberal's ideal society and we can't do that. His other policies would also increase taxes by a lot.. universal Pre-K.. medicare for all.. free college tuition.. idiotic ideas that are impossible to achieve.. what a dumby

Yeah, no way can the richest, most powerful country in the world pay for stuff like that, its the kind of insanity that is best left to other, poorer nations who seem able to manage it just fine, the fools!