reasons for ths war. . .

[M0nkeydluffy]

the war between PK and Tmn. .Xep and blue. .some facts we at PK has only be retaliating against attacks of tmn led by larry and blue on our memberz. .most notable of whom is sky and now xep. .we have made numerous pleas for peace which was outright violated again and again. .we d0nt knw the issue is. .why ths hatred to destroy sky and xep? They jus want to play the game like everyone else. .the almost murderous intent of sum of members of tmn will n0t be tolerated by PK. .as long as they wield the PK flag they are under our protection. .any attempts to vo0do them or attack them is an act of war. .we at PK do not presume to dictate anythng to other guilds on who to accept or who to reject we expect the same courtesy frm otherz. .we do not attack tmn memberz unprovoked. .we only do ths to protect our own. .if the said party has offended u shud n0t the natural recourse was to do a couple of skirmishes then let go? But ths war is going on and on and on. .i repeat pK wants peace. .but pls respect us

[M0nkeydluffy]

dont blame you for attacking me
espically WHEN you did... it was
when you did that let me know
that you were doing what you
think is the right thing to do, I
respect that. I only ask that you respect the reason as to why I was
attacking in the first place, I
signed up to play this game on my
own, and wish to play as I see
fit.... by MY rules, I have been
plundered again and again by the player that I was attacking when
you retalliated given the reason of
simply being on the plunder list,
now I know that it makes me
"fair game", its the fact that I
was accused by him OF plundering, and at first it wasnt, yet he
plundered me away. Again I respect
the guild protection thing
completely, I just wanted you to
know that contrary to popular
belief, im not an a-hole, the one I attacked was a "wanted man"
before he decided to wear the PK
jersey..... thats all.
Thank you for your time
:::
i was sent ths letter by someone that i will kip anonymous

i respect ur opinions also bro but just about everyone in PG has plundered some0ne or has been plundered by sum0ne at one time or the other. .i to0 was plundered by xep 3x by being in the plundered list also he accused me of plundering tho im jus trading in short routes. .i respect that. .we had a verbal arguement then we let it go. .thats the way it shud be. .if i take ur arguement and apply it to one of the guys tmn plundered mercilessly. .will such a person be justified in hunting a particular player outa the game? I myself have plundered sum individuals wc i am n0w ashamed of doing. .but the past is the past. .i dont speak for xep. .he does what he does. .i speak for the sake of sanity. .
I d0nt presume to knw what ur issues are and i d0nt care. .but how l0ng do u guys plan on doing ths? Its getting tiring. .let everyone jus play in peace. .and if u stil thnk differently then just wait em to leave wc kn0wing him. .he is m0st likely to do in hes time. .all i ask is u respect our flag as we respect urs. .we were allies and we never even once infringed against ur hon0r by attacking any of ur memberz so blatantly. .but u guys have d0ne nothng but break ur word to us. .anyways peace is desired by all. .

[Black sparrow]

I like this sense of approach. I will add my 2 cents in a short note.

War is not bad, in contrary it can be delightful, especially to those that have never experienced it before.
I like balance. I personally am fond of Xep, he is a very good player. However, I must be sincere and say that I was bothered seeing him with 577 ships while i have 200. I guess this could have been a key reason for anyone who is keen to find himself as the most powerful.

Let's admit it, before this friction (for which I am sparcely informed - all I know is from what I see at the forums - I would like more info certainly) I could say that Xep was by far the most powerful player in the game. Now the balance changed and I am not sure if there is a super player right now. ( It would seem that my prediction over game dynamics [url=http://www.piratesglory.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=947#p947]here[/here] was correct after all )

In the same time I am against any attempt to totally anihilate a player (I am unaware if Xep is in such danger, I am just saying). After all, it can be a very bad move tactically as it can easily backfire. An experienced player can be very destructive even with 1 sloop and Acadien has proved it! (Oh my, I am praising Acadien here? Where is this world is coming to...). However, I can tell that there will be such tactical mistakes. And sometimes they can drive a non-experienced player away (I think Nelson guy, who was #1 at some point suffered from such).

So bottom line is that war is good but overwar is not. You got to find balance. I have a little habit/rule you might like; I set time limits in my wars. I think some already do this. It is convenient. With the scripted war ideas, this habit can become a good way to fight.

Finally, I declare here publicly that I am willing to offer aid to anyone in the dear position of total anihilation. Just send me a pm in-game.

[Hawk]

This war has been kept mostly ingame but I'll fill ya in

After I joined Pk Larry and Blue accused them of sheltering me and proceeded to attack Pk members breaking the alliance and demanding that I be kicked out.

(Let it be noted that while I was on my own all of tmn and blue were attacking me and were unable to defeat me, how does being in pk change that?)

I was willing to settle things with larry and blue but due to what I said earlier, and the fact that neither one of them even messaged me concerning the situation, I concluded that since they could not beat me they were attemping to bully pk into dropping me

After talking within Pk we settled for diplomacy, and after some 'peace talks' both Jouga and Hellfire called a ceasefire on their respective guilds.
About 12 hours passed before larry, blue and walker once again attacked pk.

Now we are at the present.. we have dealt with larry and are still looking for peace with tmn
I am willing to leave Pk for a bit to settle things if neccesary, although I fail to see how that will solve things since larry and blue won't keep treatys and still haven't figured out how to counter my playstyle yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc

[Xepshunall]

I like this sense of approach. I will add my 2 cents in a short note.

War is not bad, in contrary it can be delightful, especially to those that have never experienced it before.
I like balance. I personally am fond of Xep, he is a very good player. However, I must be sincere and say that I was bothered seeing him with 577 ships while i have 200. I guess this could have been a key reason for anyone who is keen to find himself as the most powerful.

Let's admit it, before this friction (for which I am sparcely informed - all I know is from what I see at the forums - I would like more info certainly) I could say that Xep was by far the most powerful player in the game. Now the balance changed and I am not sure if there is a super player right now. ( It would seem that my prediction over game dynamics [url=http://www.piratesglory.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=947#p947]here[/here] was correct after all )

In the same time I am against any attempt to totally anihilate a player (I am unaware if Xep is in such danger, I am just saying). After all, it can be a very bad move tactically as it can easily backfire. An experienced player can be very destructive even with 1 sloop and Acadien has proved it! (Oh my, I am praising Acadien here? Where is this world is coming to...). However, I can tell that there will be such tactical mistakes. And sometimes they can drive a non-experienced player away (I think Nelson guy, who was #1 at some point suffered from such).

So bottom line is that war is good but overwar is not. You got to find balance. I have a little habit/rule you might like; I set time limits in my wars. I think some already do this. It is convenient. With the scripted war ideas, this habit can become a good way to fight.

Finally, I declare here publicly that I am willing to offer aid to anyone in the dear position of total anihilation. Just send me a pm in-game.

Let me add a little support to this statement

From: Xepshunall (#10846)
To: ___ ____ (#_____)
Title: Re:No title
___ ____ (#_____) wrote:
====================
What? you don't like the way it feels?
So Sorry!
Pay back is a *****!!!
And Im already gone!
HA!
HA HA!!
HA HA HA!!!
TOO BAD FOR U!!!!!
====================

Nothing is too bad for me. If you ask Skyhawk, you'll find that I was a hair's breath from walking away from this boring game. I do thank you for the send-off. It was quite exhilarating. I'll treasure this gift from you as the highlight of my experiences in Pirates Glory.

[Xepshunall]

To clear things up, The game itself isn't what makes it boring. It's the politics that some players have decided to include. That is a side effect of a group of societies (guilds) that want their players to advance while others fail. We all wanted to play. I said play. Do do understand the meaning of the word "play"? It's a game. Not life. If you take it personally, you take on stress. This game was not developed to give you another way to get an ulcer. Live your stressfull life outside of Pirates Glory. Battle for the fun of it. We could all be friends whether we play as friends or enemies. Remember. PLAY! And above all things, have fun.

[Hawk]

This war has been kept mostly ingame but I'll fill ya in

After I joined Pk Larry and Blue accused them of sheltering me and proceeded to attack Pk members breaking the alliance and demanding that I be kicked out.

(Let it be noted that while I was on my own all of tmn and blue were attacking me and were unable to defeat me, how does being in pk change that?)

I was willing to settle things with larry and blue but due to what I said earlier, and the fact that neither one of them even messaged me concerning the situation, I concluded that since they could not beat me they were attemping to bully pk into dropping me

After talking within Pk we settled for diplomacy, and after some 'peace talks' both Jouga and Hellfire called a ceasefire on their respective guilds.
About 12 hours passed before larry, blue and walker once again attacked pk.

Now we are at the present.. we have dealt with larry and are still looking for peace with tmn
I am willing to leave Pk for a bit to settle things if neccesary, although I fail to see how that will solve things since larry and blue won't keep treatys and still haven't figured out how to counter my playstyle yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc

Also the reason Larry gave for attacking Pk and breaking the treaty twice is invalid. When he attacked me, he said I retaliated by attacking other tmn members instead of him. Perhaps he was unaware that while he was attacking so were other tmn members at the same time. I retaliated against walker because he was the one who attacked the most. (Yes larry you are not even in my top 5 enemy list).

In fact.. I do not even recall attacking you which means all of this has been on 'blue's behalf'. Furthermore I do not recall TMN giving you a position as their representative.. at the time you attacked, Jouga had ordered a ceasefire which you broke. Pk assumed you were working on your own since Jouga admitted to having no control over you and blue. I fnd it ironic that now that we have taken matters into our own hands Jouga is on the verge of declaring war since we sunk all your sotls.

Jouga take control of your guild and stop switching stances when it is convenient

Larry I actually like how you play and would like to help you rebuild if peace can be achieved.. Please let me know if I was correct about you not being fully aware of the situation. I am sorry if you thought I was attacking players who were not involved, and felt the need to resort to the 'same' tactics

-Skyhawk

[Xepshunall]

Larry and blue claim to be unable to access the public forums. If A TMN member or other player with access to their good graces (assuming such exists) would care to pass on the information that you see here, it might go a long way to put some fun back into this mess. Somebody, please, care enough to put an end to this stupid feud. Neither I, Skyhawk or PK wanted the downfall of any of the super-powers. Just honest, decent game-play. Peace to those of TMN who deserve it. Try to deserve it.

[Hollywood]

Xepshunall, I know for a fact that SGT. Blue cannot access the forums to compose, I will contact the Sarge and ask him if I can do this for him..... after reading this thread I guess I have changed thoughts.