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Re: Bankers Guild Forum

Postby Roileon » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:19 am

Monkey D. Luffy wrote:Other way build an open forum that everyone could see. announce any suspicious transactions there. announce your black list there. no hidden forums and such, so that way players can protect their selves too.

Why you need a private forum anyway?


I fully support a public forum. You might as well just make one right here in the tavern. The easiest solution within the current mechanics of the game and all inclusive.

What I do not agree with is destruction of the banks though as I put a great stake in their success.
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Re: Bankers Guild Forum

Postby Sir Colchian Niveus » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:53 am

Thanks Roileon for sharing my conserns.. And yes i do realise that banks can't be destructed. ofcourse they can't.
I'm here to listen, everybodys beliefs. What i'm expressing, is only my opinion. The name "Dragon" comes from the Greek "drakeîn" meaning "to see clearly".

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Re: Bankers' Forum

Postby Lana » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:26 am

What an insane idea to make this kind of thread. :shock: :lol:
As I am sure that no one banker will use it, I am posting here to demonstrate you what have you done. :mrgreen:

For example, I am SHM and I want to know, what the other bankers think about player named Lana, who just now wants to borrow some money. So, I ask and other bankers respond: Yes, she is good one, in my bank has a pretty good account, says Lodswe... no, she isn't, in my bank she has a big dept and doesn't pays credit payments, tell US (to all of us) Capt. Da Vinci… she wants to borrow money from my bank too, says Danik and Shaydo and Trixikilikili agree and confirm that the same situation is with them. MAR says that she is transferring money to player named XXXXXXXX and TheLoveTiger says that he already has her on his black list… Lodswee tell US again that she withdraw big sums of money from his bank, but he doesn't know what she is doing with that… and all of them check transactions and Kart says that the player named YYYYYYYY got a big sum of money sent by Lana.
So… this is all and only about one player.

What do you think what would happen, if this thread begin to live? :?
In the best and the worst case we would have spammed tavern and all of our privacy will be jeopardized. :!: :!: :!:

Bankers want to protect their interests ( they do not have a possibility to use our money to invest… only to give us loans with some interest) and of course, If we don't pay rates they lose their own money. So, they need some kind of media to communicate.

Sorry Monkey, but I totally agree with them, especially with SHM and, when I saw the other thread about bankers forum, I wanted to propose them and Admin to make constant closed chatroom for all of them… but I am not a banker and it's not my business… so, I gave up…

Btw, :D player Lana never took a loan, but, never say never! ;)
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Re: Bankers' Forum

Postby Sir Colchian Niveus » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:21 pm

If this was a private forum would it be better lana? They don't want just a bankers forum. they want a private forum that only big bankers would have a place to it. Big bankers can be only the rich people of this game. So the people that right now are dominating in the game would just have more power than before and info about all our transactions. Then the game would be pointless. Becouse there would be no way to surpass them. we would have no goals to keep playing. If someone knows what money goes into your wallet and what money goes out, he is holding you from the gutts. That's why Nation Treasury is hidden. That's why we see that Captain Da Vince have the biggest buried treasure but we don't know how big it is. It was their choise to make a bank and it's also their choise if they will give loans. Some of them decided not to give loans so they wont have losses.

I believe that before we focus on bankers we should created equal opportunities for all members. By giving more power to them they will just keep dominating for ever. The private forum their asking it should include every single banker. otherwise it should have non. I don't know if you realised it but it's not about bankers. It's about these spesific Mega Bankers that want their wallets untouched.

That was just one senario. But what happens if Sir Henry Morgan have bigger plans with you and get info about you wealth from nothing? What happens if he decide to attack you the moment you withdraw the money from the bank to used them to upgrade yourself? They didn't spoke for all bankers. Stan said: Build a bank, get active loaning out gc and ask to join the guild. ASK TO JOIN THE GUILD. i'm sure that i'll have to give all my info to join that table. They will have my loans info and i would have nothing. I bet that even if Sir Roberts is a banker they wont let him in. If they let him in he might use these info to hit his enemies. (IT WAS AN EXAMPLE) So i believe that this might be to protect bankers but might also be a well thought plan. Like they have the right to ask protectection. i've got the right to ask for protection also. and i don't want anyone else but my banker to have my info.

What happens if they accept every banker to have a place on that table? everyone will build a bank and then it will be a public forum.

They don't want protection. They want something spesific. It's ok if you agree with them and disagree with me but i have to intention to let them take such a great power without saying my opinion and without showing to you that there are great potentials for abuse through this system.
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Re: Bankers' Forum

Postby Lana » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:58 pm

Ohhh Monkey, don't be so negative. They are not pirates, they are bankers (although it is said about bankers that they are the pirates). :D Their power is in interest, not in making ambush for their credit payers. :) And... if I withdraw the money from a bank, I am spending it in a few minutes... no one could ambush and attack in that little fraction of time. :)
I know what you mean... but, I don't see the bigger change in this realm if bankers could have their mode of better communication... they already communicate, only not so quickly as would be if they have a chatroom (not the forum) to do it.
Yes, yes...all games depends of real payments and they could be a good customers (paying real money for voodoo etc )...
To tell the story... I played one a really interesting and active game for 3-4 years and stopped, because the players who were spending big amount of real money, were the ones who only wanted to build... not to combat... so, the game which initially was the warrior type of game, became some kind of Farmville.
That already happens here, with new fishing feature... and the skirmish is a big deception... but, I am not spending a real money for credits so... my power is to decide if I want to continue to play it or not. :) (Not only direct payment is a mode for making profit of the game, you know). ;)

To return to the story about the game I played... in one moment, only on Serbian server there were 5 worlds of the same game and for each world a special section in the forum too,... now, after loosing so many people, they mixed it in two worlds and they still lose the players. (This is the international game with so many national servers too).

So... sorry again my friend, but I really think that they need their place... In the game chatroom. :)
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Re: Bankers' Forum

Postby Sir Colchian Niveus » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:40 pm

you are free to think whatever you want Lana. as i do also. :)
I'm here to listen, everybodys beliefs. What i'm expressing, is only my opinion. The name "Dragon" comes from the Greek "drakeîn" meaning "to see clearly".

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Re: Bankers' Forum

Postby Sir Colchian Niveus » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:39 pm

Lana we can't bother our selves with what they do for living. it was their choise to build a bank and it's their choise if they will give a loan. you cant build something that has potentials for abuse just to support their choises. it might be tiring to send message to all bankers as it's also tiring to stop every fleet manualy on fishing. at the end if they don't like it and don't feel safe they can stop giving out loans. and trust me they already have benefit from banks since they can store their tones of gold in there. they just want more. banks are the only way to make money without ships. if it wont have any risks at all the game will be renamed to Bankers Glory.
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Re: Bankers Guild Forum

Postby Most Lee Harmless » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:15 am

Dunno where you get this silly notion that bankers are coining vast fortunes from their banks : mine has been nothing but a money-pit : true,. it gives some benefits but overall, if you want to make coin, banks aint the way to do it, rather the opposite, if truth be told.
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Re: Bankers Guild Forum

Postby Roberts » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:32 am

Danik wrote:Dunno where you get this silly notion that bankers are coining vast fortunes from their banks : mine has been nothing but a money-pit : true,. it gives some benefits but overall, if you want to make coin, banks aint the way to do it, rather the opposite, if truth be told.


I must admit, I am building up my gold supplys, all 100 M of them... I am going to buy Aiora with it : Danik you grab Vaasburg, all other bankers can have one port : Admin we need a nation called " Bankers " and will have a picture of all out trustworthy faces on as a flag... We need to take over every port : Light up all : None bankers, make them go inactive, then avonmora is mine, i mean ours... :lol:

That is how we are going to dominate the game... :P
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Re: Bankers Guild Forum

Postby Roberts » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:24 am

Again - I do not know the situation of the Banker's right now - Even though I am one, last time I heard it was not going so well... So I have made a Web Page that has a forum on ( Fairly Basic ) but still, within the next 24 hours it should be ready to be used...
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