same old stan

[Lil Lola]

Update on Stan the Old Man..he’s on the lam..damn..thought he wanna stay to play..lol but I have a new fun game.

[Meliva]

At this point in time if people want untraceable guns they'll just 3D print one

From what I understand, 3d printed ones often tend to be unreliable and prone to breaking easy. Not good for extended use and pretty dangerous to use if you are facing someone with a gun as well. So I don't think Cartels, who often end up fighting eachother would want to rely on subpar equipment. If you're in a shoot out and your side has a bunch of 3d printed weapons, and the other doesn't, what happens if after a few minutes your guns start to jam or break and theirs doesn't? Not gonna end well for your side at all.

Edit- though 3d printed ones work pretty well if you're just planning to go and assassinate someone who won't have armed guards. I believe that's what that fellow who killed the healthcare ceo used.

[Leo]

From my understanding hobbyist of the 3d printed guns (called ghost guns) get pretty good at making them to the point where they are just as reliable as a regular gun. There's a really interesting vice episode on it where the journalist goes to a ghost gun convention and makes one with the help of a hobbyist

[Meliva]

From my understanding hobbyist of the 3d printed guns (called ghost guns) get pretty good at making them to the point where they are just as reliable as a regular gun. There's a really interesting vice episode on it where the journalist goes to a ghost gun convention and makes one with the help of a hobbyist

They are not. They have a very limited life. They are not made of the right material and can't last long when used to actually fire. They will start to break down and become less reliable the more you use one. After a dozen shots, if it hasn't failed yet, it's probably damn near about too.

Which again, real good if your goal is just to go and kill one person who isn't guarded, but in a shoot out? With other people with actual metal guns? Or even worse a battlefield or war zone? Better have a bunch of back ups to fall back on when the one you're using breaks down..

[Meliva]

And again, this is assuming you make them well. If you bungle it up, it might not fire at all, or be inaccurate. Even a well made one, is still made with material that isn't suited to withstanding the heat and force of firing a bullet. Each shot, makes the gun more and more unreliable.

[Leo]

I think there's one part you're misunderstanding. In most cases only the body is 3D printed and all the moving parts used to actually fire are made of metal. The point is that you can order the chamber and slide and trigger as part of a set and then 3d print the body and all the sudden you have an untraceable gun. And with the proper time put into assembly, they can function just as well as a regular gun even for a long time, because that parts involved in firing are all metal. My info may also be out of date and I'm not sure if measures have been taken to track ghost guns such as adding serial numbers to the metal parts

[Stede Bonnet]

From my understanding hobbyist of the 3d printed guns (called ghost guns) get pretty good at making them to the point where they are just as reliable as a regular gun. There's a really interesting vice episode on it where the journalist goes to a ghost gun convention and makes one with the help of a hobbyist

They are not. They have a very limited life. They are not made of the right material and can't last long when used to actually fire. They will start to break down and become less reliable the more you use one. After a dozen shots, if it hasn't failed yet, it's probably damn near about too.

Which again, real good if your goal is just to go and kill one person who isn't guarded, but in a shoot out? With other people with actual metal guns? Or even worse a battlefield or war zone? Better have a bunch of back ups to fall back on when the one you're using breaks down..

Since I have a bit of knowledge about this I figured I'd dispel a few misconceptions. Most modern 3d printed guns include several metal parts, most usually the barrel and the other important working parts. A lot of modern firearms already include some amount of polymers anyway, a Glock is a great example, it has a polymer frame. In the United States, citizens have the right to manufacture their own firearms, but historically most people don't do so because of the expertise and equipment required. For most firearms, the frame is the part that is legally considered the firearm. For most models, the frame experiences relatively little stress, and so is able to be made out of polymer (and thereby be 3d printed) without any real downsides. So a person can 3d print a frame, and buy a bunch of metal parts and manufacture their own firearm.

In Myanmar, rebel forces have used (and I believe are still using in reserve duties) entirely self-manufactured guns. They are able to 3d print the frames, magazine bodies and a bunch of the other smaller parts. They use a process called electrochemical machining rifling (ECM) to put rifling into correctly sized regular steel tubes, which they can purchase on the open market. Using this process they have manufactured thousands of functional and reliable firearms without traditional gun-making equipment.

Now to be clear no 3d printed gun made on a consumer grade printer will ever be as reliable as a traditionally made firearm. But, the difference is that the lifespan of the gun is going from say 30,000 rounds down to 5,000 rounds. And if I'm being frank, that's still more than most people will ever fire through a gun. There are also entirely plastic 3d guns, which is more what I think Mel is imaging, the Liberator is probably the best example-- and yeah a dozen rounds is frankly optimistic from that thing.

[Lachlan]

Canada put tariffs on us and while they have a ton of 2-3 percent tariffs (which is a steady drain of our cash)
they have quite a few that are over 130 percent, dairy over x amount is 200 percent.

so lets take the dairy ... it doesn't promote distrust it merely keeps Canadians dairy the most bought in Canada

in the same way that putting 25-50 percent keeps American steel aluminum etc the most bought in our market

the entitlement is more like we have been taxing you for years and in some cases a much much much higher tariff
but how dare you return the sentiment and by the way you will defend us as well you are here to serve us
we demand you give us your money in these taxes and have equal pricing in your market and be defended by you

seems a bit much mate

as for Australia its not even touching your main imports to the us would you prefer 25-50 percent tariffs on say the top 5
items you place on our market... because I'm down for it



Australia Exports to United States Value Year
Meat and edible meat offal $4.03B 2024
Pearls, precious stones, metals, coins $2.02B 2024
Pharmaceutical products $1.35B 2024
Optical, photo, technical, medical apparatus $1.20B 2024
Machinery, nuclear reactors, boilers $1.16B 2024
Electrical, electronic equipment $686.78M 2024
Aircraft, spacecraft $663.41M 2024
Animal, vegetable fats and oils, cleavage products $275.71M 2024
Aluminum $268.58M 2024
Iron and steel $265.75M 2024

I'm aware metals are not our main export to you. You completely missed my point that if trade is already in your favour why would you punish the other country by making it more expensive to enter your market increasing the trade imbalance? Have we somehow wronged your country in any way? The answer is no. Sure metals are a minor export to you but why hit people with tariffs for no reason when the benefit to your own country is at best minimal.

[Lachlan]

Amazing! The army that would get its arse kicked by a bunch of second amendment defending amateur warriors would 'steamroller' an acknowledged well-trained and motivated professional outfit. Who knew!

It is interesting, particularily given that the RU reckoned they would steamroller Ukraine in three days, most western analysts said nah, three weeks and here we go into year three and the army which was supposed to be second only to the US still aint winning this war. Odd how Putins best weapon and hope for victory turns out to be the Tango-Man. Who knew!

Anyhow, we look forward to the moment that Tango hits the go button to invade Canada only to be informed there is no-one around to actually send the message... they got Doge'd last week.

PS : The Musk-rat could then be in an awkward spot, given he is a Canadian citizen : is he the maple-munchers Fifth Column inside the US, pushing forward a secret agenda to weaken the US for his secret masters?

funny the second most effeminate man on pg beaten only by stan (who knew stan could win at anything) talks war
I wonder how Ukraine has survived thus far
because when Obama sent them only sheets it seems they got their azz kicked

And this time when jb gave them hundreds of billions in aid, weapons, training, personnel, and intel
they have only lost 20 percent of their country thus far
old zeedumski is having to kidnap and conscript the geriatrics such as yourself to put on the frontline


no worries about Trump hitting any button attached to the military and it not working
the only thing that's been removed from there
were pronoun changers such as yourself

Musk holds three citizenships at the same time
and 3 citizens stretch your lips at the same time
yall almost have something in common

By your own words you said Ukraine had a 3rd rate military. The fact that Ukraine a country with initially fairly middling military power has stopped a country as powerful as Russia for years from taking over most of the country is nothing to scoff at. I'm also not sure if you took into account that before 2022 Russia controlled Crimea and through it's proxies a large part of the Luhansk and Donbass Oblasts so the actual ground Russia has gained since the start of the war I would say is smaller than you think.

In 2014/2015 when Russia occupied Crimea Ukraine's military was weak, corrupt and using antiquated soviet equipment. Since then they have gradually gotten rid of most of the corruption, upgraded their doctrine and were therefore able to resist quite effectively in 2022.

You should also realise that Russia has a much larger population than Ukraine and can therefore mobilize much more people easily without having to resort to more desperate measures unlike Ukraine who has a smaller population and therefore has a manpower shortage. In a war of attrition like in Ukraine usually the country with the higher population wins. And Russia doesn't just have a higher amount of manpower but also more equipment in stockpile and in the field, more artillery shells, more planes, more ships and subs. Russia has every advantage and they still are barely winning so I think Ukraine is doing pretty well.

[Meliva]

Ukraine has done as well as it has for a few reasons.

1- It's a very large country land wise. It's a lot harder to take and hold a large area of land, then a small area. That's why so many invasions against Russia have failed. Further in you go, harder it is to keep your supply lines up. Easier it is for enemies to get behind you.

2- Wars tend to have a slight advantage to defenders. You need to fight people who are probably entrenched, in defensive positions, all while you need to get a foot hold.

3-I think Russia seriously underestimate how much a fight they were going to put and made a few nasty blunders.

4- probably the most important reason, Ukraine isn't holding them off alone. They have received hundreds of billions of dollars of aid, while Russia has been hit with sanctions. If no aid was given to Ukraine at all, and nothing was done to try to punish Russia, Ukraine probably would have fallen by now.

Even with all this support, Ukraine is just holding on, but the longer it goes on, the worse it will be for them. Unless other countries are willing to put boots on the ground, Ukraine will slowly be worn down to nothing- and even if they do manage to fend off Russia, their population is going to be decimated.