same old stan

[Leo]

Try not to mirror IDF propaganda challenge: impossible

[Lil Lola]

Actions speak much louder than words.. as soon as religion is excluded from the situation the war is over

I wish it were that simple. There are so many “reasons to fight war” expanding territory, death of some leader. Raping land of precious minerals? Haron and Dez called it Cassus Belli.

[Leo]

Speaking of wars and also federal waste, maybe the US should let Israel fight their own war and we should stop sending them billions in weapons. That's wasting much more than some park rangers tasked with protecting a specific endangered lizard

[Meliva]

Try not to mirror IDF propaganda challenge: impossible

actually give a counterargument from Leo- impossible.

I don't know if you realized this yet, but every time points are made or a question is asked to you, you almost never address them. You shift to something else, or just ignore it. This is probably the most common tactic used by people like you- intellectual cowards.

If you don't have a proper counter-argument, just admit it. If you don't have a retort, admit as such. Or if you really want to stick to your guns, then answer my questions. Here's a simple one. What do you think will happen if you bought a plane ticket to Gaza, and walked it's street wearing Pride clothing, and yelling as loud as you can "you're here, you're queer, get used to it?" While having a translator translate your words for the people there?

Here' I'll even help you out by making it multiple choice. Will it be.
A-they will declare you their new king, and a glorious era of peace and love will wash over their land!
B- They'll just ignore you as you are acting like a lunatic.
C-they will take you, beat you, torture you, then kill you, or do some form of violence against you.
D-insert you own answer here.

I'll help you a little more. The answer is C. But if you want to use answer D, I'd love to hear what you think would happen to you.

[Lil Lola]

Well that is true. They are a wealthy country. They do not need weapons from us. They have their own nukes as well. I mean you wanna make America first then why send Israel money? What exactly do we get in return? What do they have that we want or need? Don’t want to send Ukraine money then don’t send Israel shit either.

[Meliva]

Well that is true. They are a wealthy country. They do not need weapons from us. They have their own nukes as well. I mean you wanna make America first then why send Israel money? What exactly do we get in return? What do they have that we want or need? Don’t want to send Ukraine money then don’t send Israel shit either.

Im for that myself. Im fine trading and selling them supplies, but no freebies for any nation.

[Leo]

Yes the amount we've given them is absurd. Meliva - y'all make a lot of counter points. I can only address some, and when I do, I make multiple counter points that y'all make multiple counter points to. By the end of the day there's 900,000 things to respond to and who has time for allat. As for me I'm in the process of making Mac and cheese so I can only pick a few

[Leo]

So, here's what I think. I think that Israel is using the October 7th attack as an opportunity to expand further into Palestine. For so long we were calling for a ceasefire. We finally got a ceasefire and it is not being respected at all. There are attrocities being committed by both Hamas and the IDF, that is true, but at this point Hamas is less of a government and more of a rogue militia. It is unnecessary to be killing journalists trying to report, killing doctors trying to help, and killing children searching for help, all very intentionally. Israel is using excessive force. But this is why I ceasefire - a real one - is needed. it would benefit everyone.

[Meliva]

that's fine, but completely ignoring my post and just labelling it as IDF propoganda, is not fine. You don't see me labelling all your points as woke BS arguments, or leftist moronic rambling, even if I feel tempted to call it such at times.

Side note, throw in some little smokies into the mac and cheese. That makes it 100 times better. Hotdogs works too or Bacon. I prefer little smokies though. Not sure if you know what those are, but there little sausages that are seasoned. Really tasty mixing them into mac and cheese. Highly recommend it.

[Leo]

All I have is ham. And I was referring to Dman's post, not yours, because he already addresses all my comments as woke BS arguments