Another Plus for Pirates

[Edward_Teach]

I've thought about it for awhile, and I've said it before, the Pirates doesn't have a huge amount of plusses.
So, throughout history pirate vessels were always "able" to carry more cannons than the ship was supposed to have. So I propose that all traditional pirate vessels (Sloop, Sloop of War, Brigantine, Brig, Brig of War, and Frigate) should have 4 extra cannons, when you are part of the Pirates. I thought 4 was a number that gives a greater edge against merchant vessels, and some military vessels, but doesn't make it completely unfair.

Any thoughts?

[Spastic]

Wernt Brigs/brigs of was traditionally military vessels. Frigates were also military, frigates were ships too small for the line, but i could be wrong.

[Ticktock]

frigates were basically the day's destroyer class... but could also take a beating, personally I like the idea, it would give players like crappy and DTT more of a fighting shot against more capital ships I say bring on the competition

[Synzon]

Brigs were mainly used for scouting, and sending messages between fleets because of their speed. Frigates were basically ships that were in the middle, slower then the brigs, so no use for scouting and the like, and not powerful enough to normally be in the battle line formation. They were mainly used for missions that a Ship of the Line would undertake if the admiral was feeling particularly stingy.

I like the idea, personally.

[Edward_Teach]

Wernt Brigs/brigs of was traditionally military vessels. Frigates were also military, frigates were ships too small for the line, but i could be wrong.

Yes they were military vessels, put the pirates (more or less) guerrilla style naval tactics used that to seize military vessels that were alone at see (which was fairly common)

From what I've read, pirates took any vessel that was small to medium sized and could carry a lot of cannons, as well as cargo and gold, anywhere on the ship, the Ship of the Line was considered slow, and couldn't do much to the power of a frigate overloaded with cannons, both on the gun deck, as well as the deck pretty much doubling the power of the vessel.

[Grogggy]

SOTL were painfully slow. They were frequently ancient and if you actually fired all the cannons, they would sink.

Frigates were fast and dashing. They were not sent as afterthoughts as Tick said:)

Pirate ships didn't carry much cannon because they didn't want to sink the prize. What they had was way more crew, which translated into working the sails quicker, closing and boarding.

The game though also features battles between fleets that each have SOTL--thats not pirate tactics, but fleet ones that are quite different.

Anyone else think the practice of having a crap ship last is losing its luster? Pretty much everyone does it. Not really sure of the reaslism of that at all...

[Synzon]

Of course, the unpopular, but obvious choice would be to randomly pick a ship in the fleet to lose a level. That would mean that sotls would be EXTREMELY expensive.

[Hawk]

-1 Disapprove

Some perks for flying the Jolly Roger may be in order, but not like this imo


-1 Disapprove (Dez)

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[Vane]

Disapproved.

I like the idea of more cannons at the expense of cargo as other suggestions have proposed, or even ship traits to give such additions. This is to one sided.