the outback

[Mack]

I have said nothing much about being for or against mandated vax because, as far as I can see, the sector wanting to mandate jabs is the employers being driven by the insurers. The accuracy of the amount is unproved to me but one airline companies health insurers quoted $50,000 as the end cost to the insurer of an employee being infected.

It is not the mighty 'Libtard Conspiracy' driving mandatory vaccination : it is cold hard economics, plain old profit and loss and God Bless Harvard Business School.

Myself, I think getting vaxxed is the smart move, it is the obvious one. Not getting vaxxed is just stupid, selfish and inconsiderate. Alas, too many see such traits as both laudable and desirable.

well idk what emplyees cost 50 g's in a few weeks but ok sounds good

[PFH]

Have you ever seen a medical bill in America, Mack?

Just a visit alone is 5k

[sXs]

Have you ever seen a medical bill in America, Mack?

Just a visit alone is 5k

?? Really?? What Dr. are you going to see? My last office visit/checkup was around $250.

[sXs]

Hell my surgery for torn bicep was only 3500.

MRI was arund 1200

[Most Lee Harmless]

$50k was the figure quoted. It does seem high but the figures I have seen for medical bills in the US are rarely low. Being hospitalised with covid is not a matter of sitting in bed on a general ward : it is more akin to being in Intensive Care which is staffed 24/7, at closer to a one-to-one ratio. Add in tests, ventilators, monitoring, etc... then it is not such a high amount.

I'd also assume the figure covers sick pay, which for a pilot or senior staff member would not be insignificant.

There may also be 'consequential loss' coverage included : the cost of hiring coverage for that employees work.

But, as I said, it was a figure quoted with no breakdown or other proof given.

[PFH]

Feniks, my bill for going to the hospital over a bad case of constipation when I was younger, was ~63k before insurance kicked in. You’d be surprised.

Here, it is charged out the ass. I don’t know where you got such a cheap payment for the bills, but insurance is the only thing that made it affordable for my family

[sXs]

I have lived in 3 states in the last 6years. Prices I stated are pretty consistent.

Currently in Texas, but same in WI and MO.

I did find out that paying cash cuts the bill by 45-60%. Here in Texas, half of the clinics no longer take insurance. Wife went into a walk-in clinic here for a physical and annual checkup. They told her cash price was $185 if we filed it with insurance it would be $450. We found out later that the cash only clinic hee in town would have only charged 125.

Insurance companies and government are what cause the prices to skyrocket.

[Most Lee Harmless]

Insurance does inflate prices : same happens with auto accident repairs : cash is always cheaper than having it paid by insurance.

[Lachlan]

wow your health system really needs an overhaul then. My 2 largest medical problems was when I almost cut half my ear off when I was young because I slipped and my ear scrapped a coffee table and somehow it was sharp enough to tear my ear and that was only a few hundred because my dad got a discount because he was a doctor or something and when I had braces in a few years ago to stop my teeth being edge on edge because your top teeth need to be slightly in front of the bottom teeth that was only around 2.5-3k but I guess maybe it was cheaper than usual because I only needed my braces for the minimum time of one and a half years because my teeth adjusted quite quickly.

Just to clarify though I don't know what health insurance my parents have for me or if it's combined as a family or something I have no idea. I only know what company the insurance is so maybe it was more idk

I dunno it just seems more expensive than I thought was the norm

Is it cheaper in Australia because of medicare? idk

[Mack]

Have you ever seen a medical bill in America, Mack?

Just a visit alone is 5k

my e-room visit, they gave me a shot of Benadryl and it was around 500