~~~WHAT STOPS YOU POSTING IN THE FORUMS?~~~

[Stan Rogers]

So no one posts here anymore because of an issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis.

How would you like the moderation team to address the issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis?

I have an idea... term limits with the moderators

[DezNutz]

Holy crap... What is going on here. Are you telling me you dont remember any other (non UOH) where this type of behavior happened? No other toxic forum posts? No one else has ever brought this to your attention? I usually dont get upset in forum not matter what is flung my way, and this is the first time i am actually insulted and angered by the circular responses to simple TOS concepts.

So Argo, this is why nothing changes. There is no problem, its everyone else, i have ships to tend to.

Where did I say that it hasn't happened in the past?

We have talked about it in the past, however you are presenting it as if the issue with non-UoH Topics being derailed, players being trolled in non-UoH topics, etc. is occurring on a regular basis. It's not. Since it's not and the only place it is occurring on a regular basis is in UoH, the issue must be UoH.

DEZ ..... here in lies the reason for this thread. It hasnt happened recenty because no one posts at all anymore because of how often it happened in the past.


Hence the title of this thread.

You are creating a circular arguement.

I'm not the one creating a circular argument.

This is the argument that is being presented:
I don't post because of X.
Well X hasn't occurred recently.
But it did in the past, so I'm not posting.

That's Circular Reasoning.

This is also circular reasoning:

I won't post until X is corrected.
Well X hasn't occurred recently.
But it did in the past, so I'm not posting until it's fixed.


The moderation has already said in the past they were going to address the issues and the issues have diminished outside of UoH. So what more can the moderation team do?

[DezNutz]

So no one posts here anymore because of an issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis.

How would you like the moderation team to address the issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis?

I have an idea... term limits with the moderators

Are you volunteering?

[The Lamb]

It isn’t on a regular basis, because no one posts here any more on a regular basis,

All because that DID happen on a regular basis.

So no one posts here anymore because of an issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis.

How would you like the moderation team to address the issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis?

Do you understand the flawed logic in that?

Top three answers on the board:
1. Events and topics start out as fun but usually quickly become toxic. The discussions are too often highjacked for personal attention-seeking gain.
40%
3. Perceived moderation bias and favoritism when meting out warnings and suspensions.
12%
4.Complaints and reports bring little or no change. Why bother..
14%

Isnt it your job to make sure these top three issues dont happen? Why isnt this bothering you? You should want to fix this not try to fuzzy logic everyone out of what has happened here.

So the fix to the problem WE ARE HERE TO TRY AND FIX, people not in the forums anymore, is whether its me, clock, daniks, SHM, dman, Feniks who ever, is for you, the admin, to uphold the TOS and not allow the bad behavior in forums. Your thoughts?

[Stan Rogers]

I would be willing for perhaps 6 months

[sXs]

It isn’t on a regular basis, because no one posts here any more on a regular basis,

All because that DID happen on a regular basis.

So no one posts here anymore because of an issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis.

How would you like the moderation team to address the issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis?

Do you understand the flawed logic in that?

The flaw is in your logic as well. Because nothing was done in the past, no one posts. Seems if there was a commitment by mods to enforce the rules .... all of them no matter who it applies to, there will be no change.up until this thread there were only 3 new threads in 2 weeks..... that should be the biggest hint that something needs to change.

Now either the forums are part of the game or they aren't

If they atr then all the rules apply to both equally and in conjunction with each other. If the forums is separate from the game then there needs to be clear separate rules for forums. Based on comments in this thread, that needs to be clarified so all understand.

[DezNutz]

I would be willing for perhaps 6 months

Send a message to Meliva. I'm sure she will have no qualms adding you as a Global Moderator.

[sXs]

Where did I say that it hasn't happened in the past?

We have talked about it in the past, however you are presenting it as if the issue with non-UoH Topics being derailed, players being trolled in non-UoH topics, etc. is occurring on a regular basis. It's not. Since it's not and the only place it is occurring on a regular basis is in UoH, the issue must be UoH.

DEZ ..... here in lies the reason for this thread. It hasnt happened recenty because no one posts at all anymore because of how often it happened in the past.


Hence the title of this thread.

You are creating a circular arguement.[/quote]

I'm not the one creating a circular argument.

This is the argument that is being presented:
I don't post because of X.
Well X hasn't occurred recently.
But it did in the past, so I'm not posting.

That's Circular Reasoning.

This is also circular reasoning:

I won't post until X is corrected.
Well X hasn't occurred recently.
But it did in the past, so I'm not posting until it's fixed.


The moderation has already said in the past they were going to address the issues and the issues have diminished outside of UoH. So what more can the moderation team do?[/quote]

....... and yet nothing has been done in this thread ..... by the rules i see several violations by more than 1 person here.

[sXs]

So once again, back to my corner....... nothing to see here except same bs with no action taken

[DezNutz]

It isn’t on a regular basis, because no one posts here any more on a regular basis,

All because that DID happen on a regular basis.

So no one posts here anymore because of an issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis.

How would you like the moderation team to address the issue that is no longer occurring on a regular basis?

Do you understand the flawed logic in that?

The flaw is in your logic as well. Because nothing was done in the past, no one posts. Seems if there was a commitment by mods to enforce the rules .... all of them no matter who it applies to, there will be no change.up until this thread there were only 3 new threads in 2 weeks..... that should be the biggest hint that something needs to change.

Now either the forums are part of the game or they aren't

If they atr then all the rules apply to both equally and in conjunction with each other. If the forums is separate from the game then there needs to be clear separate rules for forums. Based on comments in this thread, that needs to be clarified so all understand.

Maybe you weren't around, but I took ownership of my lack of actions in the past to include a public apology for allowing it. The entire moderation team posted on it. Since then, I have addressed issues as they have come up.

As for the forum rules. The rules are applied to all forums equally with exception to the notation in the rules in regards to UoH.

I didn't create the forums, the rules, or their descriptions. I only apply them as provided from ownership.