MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

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SHOULD THE SLOOP MASTER BE BROUGHT TO TRIAL FOR UNACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES?

Yes.
18
75%
No.
6
25%
 
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby Anne_bonny » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:51 am

El Draque wrote:
Anne_bonny wrote:Actually I have submited a "ship arrest" order for said ship's (Level and traits description removed due to current leagality's).

The ship's in question are to be held by any member of the Judges (Meliva or Clockwork) until after the trial has comenced and a result has been finaliazed. There is no law to merit such an order. The ship's ownership is not in question nor is who possesses said ship, what has been in question is whether Zeph did shady dealings by not selling something he legally owns.... NEXT!

I motion that Meliva #58298 hold the ships in question and I declare a clear "conflict of interest" within the judging panel. With Clockwork #66509 (a fellow Merc member) being a Judge is clearly the shipping channel that leads to bias. There is no question over the ownership of the ship, no money changed hands there for the ship clearly belongs to Zeph who has agreed to these hearings...NEXT

A seperate case will be submited within an acceptable time frame for the "conflict of interest" referring to but not limited to the removal of Clockwork #66509 as a Judge from the Judging panel If a fair and just settlement can not be reached before the commencement of the trial.As a sworn judge, Buzz, who you call clockwork, has sole descretion to recuse himself if he feels he cannot act without bias...NEXT

A seperate case will be submited within an acceptable time frame for the cease and removal of El Drake #76506 as a leagle representive for the accussed Zephore #71211 due to another clear "conflict of interest" with the named party's, if a fair and just settelment can not be reached before the commencement of the trial.So your case is I should be removed as Zeph's councle simply because...what i would be on his side?
Thats my job madam, innocent or guilty, its not for me to decide, just to help my client the best i can... NEXT


I would also like to formally submit a request for the commencement of the trial to begian 3 Days after Judge Meliva's prior commetments, allowing adequate rest and relaxation prior to the commencement trial.

I appreaciate a speedy response due to the nature of the claims.

This is a recognised legal document of the PG community and the law council of Avonmora.This is a legal blah blah...no where on this document have I seen deposition or brief, so this AT BEST indicates an opinion, and opinions of any other that the honorable judges presiding have no business in a Court of Avonmora. To allow opinions would be akin to stripping the very liberty we all posses, the right to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty


The arrest of ships is a recognised feature of international maritime commerce and international maritime jurisdiction. Ships, their owners and insurers are expected, in the ordinary course of their businesses, to be ready to deal with in rem claims arising in connection with the use or deployment of the ship or the business of the owner or charterer.

Do we really have to discuss the lunacy of CW to remove himself if he feel's he is bias?

I agree to the basic order of proceedings

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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby The Lamb » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:58 am

The arrest of ships has no weight here, as there was no loss of revenue or physical harm done other than a slight case of your client having aft hurt by my client not agreeing to finalize the sale of his personal property.

To use this maritime law every time there be a disagreement, would fundamentally interrupt shipping and livelihoods of thousands every time there is a disagreement. The founding sailors never intended tis clause to be used as a punishment but as a way to secure disputed property, which these ships ownership is not in depute as no moneys changed hands.

Yeah i still have nothing on clock. He will have to argue his own merits :)
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby Anne_bonny » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:13 am

El Draque wrote:
Anne_bonny wrote:
!) There where two ship's involved in question there for Two ship's are too be held and we have photo's of the ship's in question.

2) I'm willing to meeet you half way and allow El Drake as your Legal rep but having Merc as Accussed, Legal rep and Judge is too much and I already have evidence of curruption and bribary from the Judge in question. I move that Clockwork to be reshuffeled onto Zephore's defence team under the direction of El Drake


1. Absolutely not! The ownership of the ship(s) is not in question, thus is not subject to holding pending verdict. I would agree to a stay in any new transfers or sales of said ship(s) till after the trial to ensure the ship(s) are available if needed by the current owner Zeph or be subject to contempt of court.

2. Yeah i got nothin :D I cant speak for Buzz, I can only believe that he will do right by these proceedings.


Objection to the stay, the ownership is in question as is the "buissness of the owner", there for the arrest of ship's applies and may not be available to the party's in question until after the proceedings is finalized, (you can't have the evidence back to sell off because you need to hire better legal representation, it dosen't work that way). :D
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby The Lamb » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:17 am

Sorry i didnt realize the ownership was in question. How much did your client pay?
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby Anne_bonny » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:25 am

Zeph hos broken a contract and as such shall have to answer on intergity if nothing else. This and much more will surely be discussed during the trial, See you in court.
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby The Lamb » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:32 am

El Draque
1 Governors Plaza
Baramas, Avonmora 00001

.......................................Maritime Court of Avonmora

.................................................) Case No. : 00001-001
Zephore,......................................)
.............Plaintiff,.........................)...................Countersuit
.................................................)
.......vs........................................)
.................................................)
The Argonaut,................................)
..........Defendant...........................)

The plaintiff Zephore brings forth the following causes of action and alleges the following:

1. The Plaintiff is an Individual and resident of Avonmora
2. The Defendant is also an individual and resident of Avonmora at the time of this complaint.
3. On or about Jan 27th 2021 started what can only be characterized as a smear campaign on the plaintiff over a cancelled deal to purchase tangible properties.
4. The defendant proceeded to besmirch the Plaintiff publicly with slanderous declarations and court proceedings clearly designed to interrupt the business dealings of the Plaintiff.

We ask the court for remedy of the following:
1. The Defendant does a full retraction of Her statements, and admits she just has a case the butt hurts with a side of sour grapes.
2. Full legal fees be paid to the Plaintiffs legal council, El Draque Esq. in the amount of $30,000 GC.
3. The court to allocate damages for the time lost, answering to what can only be called a frivolous lawsuit. Damages to consider: ship sales, ship building time and lost revenue from the absence of skirmishing time with full piracy tech.
4. Finally, we ask the court to award monetary damages for lible. This case of the wah wah's, has caused major harm to the defendants name and business with all the written defamatory statements and representations by the defendant.
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby Anne_bonny » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:44 am

Can you get the date right? your parchment is void good Sir.

This is day 144 of year 8. The new day starts In 20:19:51
There are currently 11,359 active players in Avonmora
A total of 39.37B people live in the settlements.
There are 119,175 sailing ships and 2 shipwrecks.

What is this 2021? The Avonmore Herald disagrees.

I am happy to fill out these pre trial forms when this slight issue is addressed.
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby The Lamb » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:47 am

Awwweee damn, you got me....

The issue is libel. Libel deals with printed slander. This printed slander is done in the forums NOT in Avonmora. So in order for our Libel complaint, we must reference the source of the printed material, which clearly states the CURRENT date and time the post was made.

But ah, nice try councilor.

I would be happy to show you where to see the current date and time the post were made but i may have to charge your firm for my time making your case. :D

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Here this will help :y
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby Anne_bonny » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:00 am

El Draque wrote:Awwweee damn, you got me....

The issue is libel. Libel deals with printed slander. This printed slander is done in the forums NOT in Avonmora. So in order for our Libel complaint, we must reference the source of the printed material, which clearly states the CURRENT date and time the post was made.

But ah, nice try councilor.

I would be happy to show you where to see the current date and time the post were made but i may have to charge your firm for my time making your case. :D


It's not Libel if it's factual, and I am mearly a repprensetative of the current 74% of citizens that called for further investigation.

I motion the date in question can be finalized by the judges before the start of the trial as there are extenuating circumstances reguarding the matter.
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Re: MIAB DISCOVERS QUESTIONABLE BIZNZ PRACTICES IN AVONMORA

Postby The Lamb » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:06 am

I understand, as i am but a humble servant of the law and our lord, retained to keep an innocent man from the gallows. Furthermore, It is for the court to decide what is factual and what is not.

But fine I agree, if the judges so order, I will change the date from the forum to the in-game date, but for now I will leave the date of the publication till ordered otherwise :)
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