Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby not a pirate » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:22 pm

All they do is talk, their diplomacy consists of, "My guns are bigger than yours, so stand down!" I want them to actually fire. I know the beating will be severe but it is better than nothing.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby DezNutz » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:23 pm

chal wrote:
DezNutz wrote:In all honesty, All I see is complaining about complainers. If you don't care, then don't and just continue on in the game. This is nothing but kabuki theater.

Are we really complainers if, instead of only whining about them, we invite them to action, knowing full well they can beat us down 10x over what we can do to them?


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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby not a pirate » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:24 pm

If I complain about complainers complaining, and invite them to not complain, am I really a complainer for trying to end the complaining?
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby ChaIbaud » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:25 pm

DezNutz wrote:
Capitaine Leonce wrote:Most traders complain, they keep it in confined spaces such as private messages or guild chats though. If it was made public, they become a target.



Do you not get the irony of your message. You hate that they complain, but yet you are complaining about them.

We are speaking out against a long-brewed issue that has arrived from becoming lazy and expecting only good things to come, like the guaranteed income from trade routes and support from your 40+ man guild. They complain of losing small amounts of money in quite isolated occurences, we are highlighting what we see as a wide-spread issue, as some others do.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby DezNutz » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:31 pm

Capitaine Leonce wrote:If I complain about complainers complaining, and invite them to not complain, am I really a complainer for trying to end the complaining?


Yes, because you are complaining. Taunting or calling them into action is one thing, complaining about what they are doing makes it complaining.

chal wrote:
DezNutz wrote:
Capitaine Leonce wrote:Most traders complain, they keep it in confined spaces such as private messages or guild chats though. If it was made public, they become a target.



Do you not get the irony of your message. You hate that they complain, but yet you are complaining about them.

We are speaking out against a long-brewed issue that has arrived from becoming lazy and expecting only good things to come, like the guaranteed income from trade routes and support from your 40+ man guild. They complain of losing small amounts of money in quite isolated occurences, we are highlighting what we see as a wide-spread issue, as some others do.


Don't ask, just continue doing what you plan on doing. If you were going to hit them, hit them. They will either do something or they won't. Inviting them to do something is nothing but the same empty words that you claim they are saying.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby Dmanwuzhere » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:32 pm

All I will say on this is that pirates are pirates and by that very definition will be trying to take your gold.
And traders who wish to resist that are encouraged to do so....... it may mean you meet counter resistance to your counter resistance lol and it is on each individual to decide if that approach is productive for each individual, team or coalition.
But I will say this the most active people are those who have to play everyday to earn.
With a recent decline of actives as proven by the removal of inactives with fleets in the recent months targets are fewer and excellent targets even fewer than that.
So I can guarantee you will be hit.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby Meliva » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:39 pm

I will say this, if a trader gets raided excessively, then either they are doing something wrong and making themselves a easy/good target, or they angered someone which is the last thing a trader should do. If a person wishes to be a trader, then they should try their best to not provoke others, ESPECIALLY pirates and privateers. Second, it isn't too hard to split up your routes and give them a decent escort. Sure that affects the profit gain a bit, but it helps deter raids and you gain in the long run.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby ChaIbaud » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:40 pm

DezNutz wrote:Don't ask, just continue doing what you plan on doing. If you were going to hit them, hit them. They will either do something or they won't. Inviting them to do something is nothing but the same empty words that you claim they are saying.

My words weren't empty and not even necessarily hostile: I just seek to make the game more interesting by inviting the fat-cats to do something besides private message me.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby Meliva » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:46 pm

A side note I just remembered. A good bit of advice to traders or players who are new or just want to be mostly left alone is to be polite and friendly. It doesn't cost anything to do so and it honestly helps a lot in the long run. You are far less likely to be raided if others like you then if others dislike you. So don't go around boasting, don't insult the more aggressive players, and don't be rude.
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Re: Complaints Against VUDU Memebers

Postby DezNutz » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:47 pm

They are. If you aren't going to do anything outside of what you would do normally (ie what you would do without saying something), they are nothing but words, thus unnecessary, and thus empty.
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