Coincidence, Cowardise or Both?

[Sebena]

I am not saying they have to, I was just questioning the move. Since I joined the game Spain has always controlled 5 ports and i was told by Spanish counsel a few times, that they chose to reduce their ports to 5 and keep it there (From the time when they held more). I was just asking a question if they are now going to fully defend a 6th port.

Where this sits ill with me and some, is we wanted more diversity in the map. If we didn't we would have just tried to keep and run 9 ports. I am sure with the group that merged we would have been successful. We "gave" the port away for FREE to see a new nation blossom and grow. This nation has had its struggles yes, but with other small nations. I am safe to say there is no love lost between some Montenegro players and Grenada players. This is where some of the main struggle comes from.

In terms of history, there was a long time that Bermuda owned almost every port. Spain and Bermuda were the port control powers for a long time. The desire for more flags is partially in response to one nation holding over half the map and only one (or possibly two, my mind is foggy right now) nation holding the rest.

What we have is a lot better than what it was in terms of parity of port control, in my opinion. What it will be tomorrow... who knows.

Slindur

If my memory seves me right bermuda never owned more than 4 ports... in brief history of bermuda that I am familiar with bermuda owned neapolis,akroitiri, kanoni and regis for short ammount of time until fox vs mexico war was goimg... Bermuda attempted on takeover of Aiora and hel it for 1 day only because it haf low influence similiar to Bonaire vs Spain Hannes incident... after losing all 3 ports bermuda regained kanoni and neapolis then took over the new land and gave up on akroitiri so please fill me in when bermuda owned half the map?

[Shadowood]

He is thinking of Barbados. Not Bermuda

[Sebena]

He is thinking of Barbados. Not Bermuda

Then yes barbados held half the map if not more and in that time other half was midway or cuba I can't remember veterand told me aboutnit but I forgot :/

[Slindur]

Yes, it was Barbados. A slip of the fingers. My apologies on naming the wrong country. The rest of the content is legit though.

Slindur

[Most Lee Harmless]

This is dragging on and out past boring : If people feel the port should not have defaulted to Spain when key influence holders left, they should have put their coin where their wishes are and prevented it. Posting 'questions' as to what Spain was going to do to 'redress' the map before the port had even become theirs was pointless and meant to achieve what? Make Spain responsible for the outcome of a long scrap between others which led to the collapse of Grenada? Smoke and mirrors is all very well, but when certain players have worked hard these past months to bring about this very conclusion, well, to listen to them blather about 'keeping the map diverse' is, frankly, total bollox. Grenada lost their port because they were under attack for months, attacks aimed at their port. The end of the 'cease-fire' seems to have plainly not resolved that conflict and certain grenadan's seem to have decided enough is enough and quit that flag. Well, isnt that the point here, not what Spain will do to make the map pretty again but that an atatcker has won this round and destroyed Granada's port control. So, enough of this 'who is gonna fix the map' nonsense, let the ones who caused the mess clean it up if pretty flags are what they desire.

[Shadowood]

This is dragging on and out past boring : If people feel the port should not have defaulted to Spain when key influence holders left, they should have put their coin where their wishes are and prevented it. Posting 'questions' as to what Spain was going to do to 'redress' the map before the port had even become theirs was pointless and meant to achieve what? Make Spain responsible for the outcome of a long scrap between others which led to the collapse of Grenada? Smoke and mirrors is all very well, but when certain players have worked hard these past months to bring about this very conclusion, well, to listen to them blather about 'keeping the map diverse' is, frankly, total bollox. Grenada lost their port because they were under attack for months, attacks aimed at their port. The end of the 'cease-fire' seems to have plainly not resolved that conflict and certain grenadan's seem to have decided enough is enough and quit that flag. Well, isnt that the point here, not what Spain will do to make the map pretty again but that an atatcker has won this round and destroyed Granada's port control. So, enough of this 'who is gonna fix the map' nonsense, let the ones who caused the mess clean it up if pretty flags are what they desire.

+1

[PhoenixKnight]

lol @ Pretty flags. I agree with your point though.

[DezNutz]

This is dragging on and out past boring : If people feel the port should not have defaulted to Spain when key influence holders left, they should have put their coin where their wishes are and prevented it. Posting 'questions' as to what Spain was going to do to 'redress' the map before the port had even become theirs was pointless and meant to achieve what? Make Spain responsible for the outcome of a long scrap between others which led to the collapse of Grenada? Smoke and mirrors is all very well, but when certain players have worked hard these past months to bring about this very conclusion, well, to listen to them blather about 'keeping the map diverse' is, frankly, total bollox. Grenada lost their port because they were under attack for months, attacks aimed at their port. The end of the 'cease-fire' seems to have plainly not resolved that conflict and certain grenadan's seem to have decided enough is enough and quit that flag. Well, isnt that the point here, not what Spain will do to make the map pretty again but that an atatcker has won this round and destroyed Granada's port control. So, enough of this 'who is gonna fix the map' nonsense, let the ones who caused the mess clean it up if pretty flags are what they desire.

+1

How do you +1 a major counterpoint that refutes the entire purpose of this Thread that you yourself started?

[Shadowood]

How do you +1 a major counterpoint that refutes the entire purpose of this Thread that you yourself started?

I was just agreeing that some should step up and take the port.

[DezNutz]

How do you +1 a major counterpoint that refutes the entire purpose of this Thread that you yourself started?

I was just agreeing that some should step up and take the port.

Someone did. A player obtained the most influence in the port and moved to the nation of his choice taking the port with him.